You couldnt 'throw me under the bus', Hub. You overcomplicate basics. Nothing is burning up. You missed the simple. The most basic electrical lesson is the open or closed switch, or bridge. If you dis-assembled your actual pair the electrical functionality is exactly that, an open/close switch. That plug doesnt use that juncture as a grounded point. If it did and it required grounding, stickin a resistor in there wouldn't get it done. Can it be done by stickin a resistor in there? Yes, because its creating a bridge, not because of its resistance. In this interface, the bridge is required to 'open the switch' to stop the dash code. My method for stopping the dash code when blocking and removing the pair, is comonly reffered to in tuning as 'the paperclip method'. It has been used long before me. I was simply sharing a method commonly used to solve this problem. Why all this has to be explained to you Hub, is beyond me. Use a resistor, use whatever you want. Carry on.

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You overcomplicate basics.

I'm very careful with the basics. Take your paperclip and bridge one of them there yellow stator wires out the bike. That's how I look at that bridge. See that wire across the battery posts doing the same thing? No resistor in between for a safety valve we go modding shit.

Nothing is burning up.

Drop your homeowner's insurance and the fire protection clause. That's like the insurance needed or not or was never used that whole time kind of carry on.

You missed the simple.

I think I gave you two examples of simple bride wiring we do it your way. Way number three. Bridge that burnt out filament bulb and wall socket that wire in the holes, across the wires where the filament was; we enter my coffee fatass resistor. I'm going to take a wild guess your bridge carried so much safety and burnt the bridge out. The wire is smoked, yes or no here we go again, C. This is basics, page oxygen to hydrogen separation in voltage made, separate a - from a + in liquid forum, i.e., so simple are the acid separations; chemically speaking. My current<[pun] bathroom reader, btw.

That plug doesnt use that juncture as a grounded point.

Keep it simple. This is where I ask someone to bring in the other number than using the penultimate number. Which is to say the same as saying, if we have + and do nothing with it, no light, right? But if we - the other wire we make a ground and that is my point. Bring in watt? A * off the keyboard that reps a plus or a minus so we have what to ground? What is positive if not, look, do we see another post off a battery that reps what? Do we have two posts yes or no? Yes. Do we have a plus and a minus and not other posts. Correct, no other posts. So how do we ground a wire to a bulb is to flip the flop, yes or no? Yes, only two positions in the processing. So the junction is a ground or completes a circuit to turn the light offandango, in the flip of the flop is the opposite as stated there goes the light off in the process there of.

If it did and it required grounding, stickin a resistor in there wouldn't get it done.

You said bridge and the resistor is straight thru. It acts the bridge as if none were in the hole? Of course not. It still bridges as in 'completes a circuit.' Did it connect both wires? Yes, to ground. My light is on, how do I make it turn off? Ground it, flips the flop it, processing style.

Can it be done by stickin a resistor in there? Yes, because its creating a bridge, not because of its resistance.

So we accomplished the same thing. My bridge across the battery posts and your bridge across the battery posts. Watt are the odds one needs fire insurance before one makes that connection more than the other bridge?

In this interface, the bridge is required to 'open the switch' to stop the dash code.

You mean you can flip-flop opening the door using either side of the doorknob? Why is the light off then on my end? Because if it is not on+ then it's off-. Simple interface to face.

It has been used long before me. I was simply sharing a method commonly used to solve this problem. Why all this has to be explained to you Hub, is beyond me.

Ah HA! Hand me down squid tactics. No wonder I wasn't trying to send you under the bus is a hand-me-down-fallacy-fumble-fucking-A!

No wonder you didn't catch it. You passed on some BS hackjob. No wonder it pulled the flag out of my back pocket and banner yet wave is "you motherfuckers are on you own" when it comes to internet pass me the pepper shaker...

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Yeah, Nels and Mike use hand me down squid tactics. You make yourself sound more like an idiot everytime you open your mouth. Hubbish. Its hilarity. Keep trying to make your point, first person with a basics in electrical is gonna laugh at you harder than I. As I said, do it your way, I can't see it from my house. Nels and I tune motorcycles for a living. You can't sort out one. Thats funny.

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Yeah, Nels and Mike use hand me down squid tactics.

Probably another hand me down not so savvy with the lectricks they didn't see it. No doubt they never took my bike to my wiring kind of actuator remote, tied flies, sync'd sets. Squids pull their flies. Pro's more disconnect and back to stock just so fucking quick like it never happened. See me wit stripped sub shafts?

You make yourself sound more like an idiot everytime you open your mouth.

This shit is for Rook's consumption. This be hard core work the wire to jobber in so many moves by yours... being the theory of a bridge without a pressure in between wires/without a jobber of some sort between wires/as in a bank of wires burn down but not the other side we short for no matter the reason we save both sides either wire fails is that side. Your path is it keeps smoke'inn
Oops.

Its hilarity. Keep trying to make your point

This is where my humor kicks in, we leave you out of it, but more rip up the theory hand-me-down. And here have yet to have a clue, bring your other buddies in and now they look stupid too no clue... 'The best can be beaten' is no shitory if you want to live that quote.

first person with a basics in electrical is gonna laugh at you harder than I.

An EE is going to give you a lesson about ohm and the laws of smoke.

As I said, do it your way, I can't see it from my house.

I'm saying when it comes to wiring, have a fuse no matter how it looks, tastes, smells. When it comes to crossing a wire you pulled off a jobber, treat the jobber as a resistor [in place] so the push of amps takes time to burn out that jobber, being the jobber is a resistor in some way is take 2 wires, apply 2 more variables to balance the light going offandango are?

Nels and I tune motorcycles for a living. You can't sort out one.

No offense, C, but if you took a couple of decades year old sitter in some backyard, set of points kind of pick the bike of your choice, I doubt you'd know where to start. Now, that's funny!

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Why do you need to unplug that? I haven't unplugged mine. I only blocked the hose going to the airbox.

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Runs fine, no codes and very minimal decel pop if I'm romping on it.

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You don't necessarily need to, you can leave the pair assembly in place and just plug the hose. I removed my pair assembly and installed block off plates. Just eliminating a little excess was all.

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C, the old lady goes, 'that's you' [meaning me] lol

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Ok, Im going to take a stab at this, now I don't have the knowledge that some people on this board
do, but here goes, basically, C is trying to "fool" the said electronic component, into
"thinking" the Pair is still there ? Now, was there a resistor there, or something similar to that
before said "mod" ?

And at what point is C going to burn up his wiring harness or what ever ? he has had this "mod"
on there for 17,000 miles ? what are the parameters for this incident to happen ?

Im really trying to learn here.

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WTF?
You guys still sword fighting.
Geesh!
I'll check back when you're on page 29. Lol

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he has had this "mod"
on there for 17,000 miles ? what are the parameters for this incident to happen ?

Im really trying to learn here.

Let's hold a wire across the battery. Think of what happens. The wire glows cherry/orange and melts before you can take your fingers off of the wire. Hold a resistor across a battery and you'll theoretically cause the battery to go dead.

The PAIR is open with key off, no current to the actuator to close it with 12v. So you figure the actuator is moving 4 times and holding closed on high rpm. The wire bridge is taking about half an amp or more thru those trigger passes and travels to ground.

The time it is off is the cooling of the wire. Is the wire thick enough? Probably. After 17k shouldn't something happen? No, the [resistance] is absorbing that heat thru the wire when on. So again, we use the ohm resistor, see the volts working, set a cooler block of glass silicone to absorb that momentary heat, fuck the squid moves, fuck those hand-me-downers, you fuck with the hand-jobs instead; where they have their nose so far up those is ass is he can't see the light at the end of the tunnel vision... Amateurs that play wit day big dogs.

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Hub, you are flat wrong and cant admit it. Thats fine. You have no understanding of how a fused and grounded 12v system works. The wiring schematic is in the service manual. Its not complicated. You try to make it so in order that people might think you intelligent. Too bad the smart ones see through it huh? Your hubbish simply inhibits the passing of knowledge. Bridging the pair connector will not burn anything up. That was the answer.

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Hub, you are flat wrong and cant admit it.

I want to be wrong so the other side is in the absolute correct side so one can choose. Now, if I look at wires 2 ways, one is flow, one is smoke. No other ways does electricity work, either it flows to ground or burns the wires is seeing how ground exposes itself, yes or no?

You have no understanding of how a fused and grounded 12v system works.

Lets see if you do. Explain how the light goes out, the air pump receives electricity too... In basic steps. I doubt it, so there we go. You sort of walked into this and I doubt you'll get out of it. Impress me oh mighty EE without a degree.

You try to make it so in order that people might think you intelligent.

I want people to think for themselves so there is no hand-me-down they can't understand. This should fly right off the cuff, so if you do not correctly explain the logical steps of how the light goes off, who are you to come and explain electricity if you think I have no clue, then you must have some intelligence as to the why. Silence says you know jackshit, you can't come up to the plate and discuss the subject, etc.

Too bad the smart ones see through it huh?

The smart ones will see how well you explain the basics. Basics explains the process, the logic, the formula, etc.

Your hubbish simply inhibits the passing of knowledge.

You are going to show how much knowledge you have on the subject. Lots of finger pointing, lots of accusations, lots of know it all as if I can tell you right now we will have silence when it comes time for you to explain the process of the light turning off, and how the actuation of the air pump functions as in the timing on and off... It's in the manual so this is open book.

Bridging the pair connector will not burn anything up. That was the answer.

That was the answer was the resistance is taking the heat is a paperclip. If I am wrong, then I have no clue of electricity basics. Am I right with this? Of course I'm right. I answered the very first question = It flows, not burns.

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Guess if your worried you could always use a fuse 1/4 amp should be ok

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It's not the worry, darryle, it's the theory of electricity we are discussing now, not turning the light off. That was answered. Now for the red flag-hand-me-down theory and its basics. If you have a little insight to the subject, put 2 and 2 together. If I bridge a wire across a battery, will the wire burn up? Of course it will. If I use a 'resistor' is the key word here, will I flow? Of course it will flow not burn. So if that's the mentality where I can't see C's house burning from here... Clueless is he who says the wire matches the ohm resistor and will not burn across the battery post. You look at it that way, you begin the argument vs hand-me-a water hose in the most basic way of watt hubsay and everyone else says. Hand me down is be my guest, ain't my bike, NOLTT, and wattsmells?
https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=JN.foXZfFhnV3DbLJF8e31cwQ&pid=15.1&P=0

So my way of thinking is someone keeps handing down a wire across a battery, i.e., a wire is a short shelf-life jobber. A resistor IS a longer life Jobber. Did I replace a jobber with resistance? Yes. Can I use a paperclip as a resistor? Yes.

Can I see the same concept as if looking at electricity using said battery post to wire? Hand-me-down is hand me that crap! He's aiming for page 29, I know him. Why, I'm not going to watch this. Oh I am, it's going to be entertaining watching the banter fly around. You think he'll take the bait? Yeah, he's between dyno runs, it's riding season, so things are slow. No they are not, you asshole, watt do you know anyway. I now enough to be dangerous come play in my backyard and rattle my tail, here come the dailies he takes the bait...

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... I weight the wait.

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Keep waiting. I explained it barney style and gave you a reference to increase your own knowledge. Take the initiative and seek self improvement in a weak area. Lol.

Go pay someone to run your bike on a dyno and then post a sheet showing your crabapple afr. The numbers will tell all, and maybe we will all take your theories a little more serious. How many miles you ridden your bike? How big are those chicken strips? They carry more weight than your hubbish. ROFL

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C, watt did I tell you... Silence. Once you skirt the questions, it does not look good in a way. It shows credibility. It shows you can't spar, arc for amp, volt for note. It has to walk is the simple example. This is no longer lights out, this was how you have the time to answer the skirt, it was a hand-me-down you sir, do not understand.

Explain how the light goes out and the actuator continues working... open book... do not skirt the simple yes and knows is only your pit knows for sure.

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Hub are you positive the you are connecting 12v directly to ground between the pins? From what I understand,it's just a on/off switch point for the ecu, kind of like jumpering the OBD pins on a late 80's GM to retrieve fault codes.

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Correct, nasty. Nothing has changed. Run the same paperclip into the 2 connectors, as I have the two style OBD code connector keys. Same as saying that 1999 till today still obeying the same handcuffed codes for FI.

it's just a on/off switch point for the ecu

There you go, on you see codes; off you see the check engine light; simple flip-flop pick a leg. It takes current to hold the light off as in magnetically holds the switch open/closed, is how you can see how the lights go on and offandango. C should have rolled that right off the top of his head but silence shows otherwise.

And because of the silence, hand-me-downs only mimic the act, cannot explain theory as I just explained, wink-wink... Magnetically speaking or computer speak, on-off me lights. Come on, C, this is basic computer shit. One sentence was/is the concept. We on the same page yet we understand ground effects? LOL

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The most basic electrical lesson is the open or closed switch, or bridge. If you dis-assembled your actual pair the electrical functionality is exactly that, an open/close switch.

Thats me quoting myself. I said it simply and plainly from the very begining. Trying to play it off different is again your self serving delusion. Have a great day. Lol.

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WTF thought we'd be on page 26 by now???

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Not bad Wolf!^^^

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Saw that, said nothing. Then, got bored, C. I then played with the hand-me-down, found out what I wanted to know. I'm done. You came back with silence the last time as was this time. Pretty consistent once you start making the insults and then oh look, the mirror appears.

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Thanks NN thought I post a pair valve I would like to block off.
Hubs and C good night boyzs

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