You guys have NO idea about the new 14

Ouch,,,,, Look closely at the picture. As you can see I own both Gens. This 2012 14R is my 3RD ZX-14. I might have some idea,,,, some ?????

You guys are smokin crack,

Yep, I was warned not to speak on this topic. Tough Crowd lol

You guys are smokin crack,i have been to the track and PLENTY of street races,and the new 14 wins sorry see it all the time at the track and the street. Hell i have beaten my friend on his bmw 1000r on my new 14 with equal mods and all,with my torque he said i pulled instanly 2 bikes and he said i slowy pulled another 2-3 bikes up top to about 170. You guys are probly heavy guys trying to race lightweights. I weigh 163,so i always kill the 1000's. You guys have NO idea about the new 14,or like i said you are all chubby riders

Unfortunately you failed to read the parameters you set forth in your request for an explanation. You stated street race where traction on an unprepped surface will be limited off the line and the superior torque of the 14 will be negated by ensuing wheelspin. If you beat another person off the line with your 14R it's because you were more skilled at launching or, at the very least, just plain lucky because of the limited traction. At a track on a prepped surface, the equation changes. 14R FTW pretty much every time. I don't have a 14R. I don't have a 10R. I have a dinosaur but it holds its own pretty good. However, we've had several races against both at the track. Again though, you failed to realize the parameters set forth in your original question that both riders be of equal weight and equal skill by saying we must be overweight pilots trying to race lightweights. My rider is about 160-165 suited but, here again, I don't have a 14R or a 10R. I sure hope someone takes a couple of like modded bikes with equally skilled and weighted riders out there and actually does this test from about a 60 roll to take away all the launch variables. I'm afraid a few 14R owners with a superiority complex are going to be scratching their heads looking for answers. Somebody please do this.

Smokinstorm are you listening to me at all???? I just told you i did it against a bmw1000r,and womp him pretty good from just about a 60 roll to about 170. What else do you guys want to hear?? I just keep on the side of me and lee pritchard. I think we both know what we are talkin about. By the way the guy on the bmw kills everyone else. And romans im sorry maybe your a heavy weight too, but i was right about the other guy,jesus 230 i would kill you on the street in a roll on,sorry guys but at that weight you just cant be that competive against good racers with setup bikes,my 160lbs lil ass would walk away from you period. Hell that video proved it a 265lb man[holy shit thats heavy] on a STOCK bike keep up and finally walked past a HEAVILY modded 10r,[pipe,engine work,tuned,weight reduction,so on and so on]Again it was a stock bike with a man close to 300 lbs. Let him race me on my 14 and it would be a KILLING. The problem you guys arn't getting is that was not even close to a normal piped and tuned 10r,that was a bike setup my a great rider who knows his bike against a newbie who just got his. And again it was STOCK.

* Last updated by: zx14racer on 6/2/2012 @ 12:25 PM *

. And romans im sorry maybe your a heavy weight too

Yep, 6'2 235lbs Balls ass naked lol. That's why I snuck in a turbo. Just because you guys are little does not mean us big guys won't try lol. Problem now is the 2010 will Eat the new one and I mean Eat,,,, So,,,,,, ?

WOW yeah it will,i just showed my 12 14r a pic of your 14 and it leaked coolant!!!!!

Smokinstorm are you listening to me at all???? I just told you i did it against a bmw1000r,and womp him pretty good from just about a 60 roll to about 170. What else do you guys want to hear??

I want to hear that you did not hit the throttle first against the BMW and that's why you instantly jumped out two bikelengths. If you hit first, and from your description of how the race went it's 99.9999999999999% likely you did, that would explain how the race came off as you described. Now go race a like modded, liked rider weighted 10R and get back to me. Why not let him have the hit since your bike accelerates so much harder it should be no problem whatsoever for you to match his speed and motor past within a couple hundred feet. Let me know. If you walk past given those parameters, I'll tuck my tail between my legs and shut up. I hope I'm not being mean here. I'm just following the laws of physics. I'm basing what I'm saying on physics and a certain 2012 10R around here that's run a 5.61 @ 128.9 on pump gas second time at the track in ~1000 DA. He's got the usual bolt-ons and a light rider. I know Lee has run quicker and faster but this was the second trip to the track for this particular bike/rider. I'm sorry but there's also a few 14R's around that have yet to run anywhere near this quick or fast with lightweight riders. Yes, rider skill probably has more to do with it than anything else and it's sure hard to take that out of the equation. Still, that's an impressive number for an untouched motor 10R. Can we at least agree on that???

Yep, 6'2 235lbs Balls ass naked lol. That's why I snuck in a turbo. Just because you guys are little does not mean us big guys won't try lol. Problem now is the 2010 will Eat the new one and I mean Eat,,,, So,,,,,, ?

Love that turbo. I just picked up another ZX14 and it's got one of them little old hairdryers attached as well. I might even be able to ride that one myself at 6'2" and 380 pounds and be competitive againt little dudes on stock bikes.

Ok I've seen everything except who has the biggest dick. LOL

Ok I've seen everything except who has the biggest dick. LOL

ROFL, I can tell you for sure it's not me.

I might even be able to ride that one myself at 6'2" and 380 pounds and be competitive againt little dudes on stock bikes.

1Bad is 300lbs runs in the 8s.

I'm sorry smokinstorm is a smacked ass. I beat the bikes he wants me to beat and he still doesn't belive me. Whatever the bmw 1000rr is just as fast if not faster than the zx10r,and yes smacked ass we have raced more than once,and i gave him the hit and then came around him. But your a genius storm,so you don't belive me. Going back to bikeland,home of the more knowledgable people. On this site i have an almost 400 lb man telling me how i'm not really winning any races. Well here is some physics for you smokin,if you don't stop eating your going to POP!!

* Last updated by: zx14racer on 6/2/2012 @ 7:27 PM *

I'm sorry smokinstorm is a smacked ass. I beat the bikes he wants me to beat and he still doesn't belive me. Whatever the bmw 1000rr is just as fast if not faster than the zx10r,and yes smacked ass we have raced more than once,and i gave him the hit and then came around him. But your a genius storm,so you don't belive me. Going back to bikeland,home of the more knowledgable people. On this site i have an almost 400 lb man telling me how i'm not really winning any races. Well here is some physics for you smokin,if you don't stop eating your going to POP!!

No, not yet you haven't. You have yet to beat a 10R unless you make that one up. Now the story has changed and you've given the BMW the hit and driven right around it. Funny how that version was not in your original claim. Poser???? Not sure you haven't made up this as well and since I'm a genius by your own admission I should know, right? BTW, I'm on zx14.com as well and I'll tell you the same thing there. I guess you'd come right around my dinosaur too, right???? That race I'll bet on.

* Last updated by: smokinstorm on 6/2/2012 @ 8:04 PM *

i told you about one race you fat fuck,sorry i didn't tell you about every race we had. We ride all the time so sorry i tell u ever race for now on. You dont even ride your own bike,hardware,farmer boy.

I'm pretty sure I can tell you who this zx14 poser is. He's got another name over on Bikeland that half the forum has hit ignore on. This guy is a real whacko...just sayin. Honestly in all my years in posting on various enthusiasts forums, this guy is the biggest idiot I've EVER seen. Whole new level here.
Why don't you go ahead and tell us your name over on bikeland poser? Also lets hear more about how tight you and Lee Pritchard are?

?????????? Wrong guy pal. I'm not on bikeland but i read on there all the time.

* Last updated by: zx14racer on 6/2/2012 @ 10:08 PM *

OH boy, now I'm a fat fuck. Glad I've made it to the big time. I must have struck a nerve when I figured out you're just making things up about your races, huh? I don't need to ride my own bike. I ride to enjoy. I have hired guns to take care of little boys like you. Or is it girls???? Wanna take me up on my challenge to race my slow ass old shit? I have two ZX14's and a Busa to choose from. I've got a rider that weighs the same as you and obviously isn't as skilled as you because you're the best ever. All three bikes have stock motors with bolt-ons. Neither of them should be able to keep up with the rocket ship you have. Since your bike is so fast, how about a formal drag race? I made up the times in my sig and my fastest bike only actually runs mid 6's in the 1/8th as that's what old dinosaur ZX14's run. That's common knowledge. Well?????

?????????? Wrong guy pal. I'm not on bikeland but i read on there all the time.

Oh I think you do:) I also don't believe a word you have said over here. Not to mention anyone who is as chidish as you and responds to others in such an immature manner with name calling and insults, surely isn't out of puberty yet. I think Smokinstorm was trying to have a spirited but polite conversation with yuou and you start the name calling. Would you call someone that to their faced without expecting some consequences? Seriously what the hell is wrong with you man?? Come on...Bikeland name is???

jeez you guys are really taking this stuff personal lol , nobody even said anything about my busa questions !!!!! i mean im glad a kawasaki is fast, i had a 07 10r it was my first bike, and even with my weight i beat many busas making 10 more hp than me because i could keep mine down and it was light, i have been doin some research on the 14r though and there are ways to offset the extreme weight difference, i really considered the turbo idea but its like having a 700hp car and everbody else has 300hp cars.......you never get any races , so im gonna mod mine up and love it even if i cant outrun its little brother :)

Listen smokin i was just trying to make my point,i'm sorry for the name calling its just that when i tell you guys something about what happen in a race and you question me about it,it pisses me off. I even showed the guys this post on my phone and the guy with the bmw just laughed and said he wishes what you guys were saying was true about the 1000's,and now he feels like shit because he thinks he should be beating me now. And to the guy who thinks i'm on bikeland and thinks i'm that gixxer kid,really man get a life i'm not that bad. I got into one heated argument with one guy and you jump in the middle and start saying all this horrible shit about me. Whose gixxer kid me or you?? Oh and one more thing smokinstorm where i come from when you start talkin about you what to race and my bike is faster,you look foolish saying i have riders that can take you on. REALLY what are you donald trump or something?? If your going to talk the talk ride the bike or don't get into the conversation. Even my friends said this guy is talkin all this smack and doesn't even what to race you himself. Now to stop all this fighting i'm done on the subject i'm not going to go back and forth internet fighting,this is stupid. I told you what the outcomes are of my races. Thats that. And what i said about lee i stand by. I don't know him but even he came on here and said what i was saying about the new 14r that's all. Take care and ride safe. [and tell all your riders who ride for you to ride safe to donald trump]!!

* Last updated by: zx14racer on 6/3/2012 @ 8:49 AM *

Listen smokin i was just trying to make my point,i'm sorry for the name calling its just that when i tell you guys something about what happen in a race and you question me about it,it pisses me off. I even showed the guys this post on my phone and the guy with the bmw just laughed and said he wishes what you guys were saying was true about the 1000's,and now he feels like shit because he thinks he should be beating me now. And to the guy who thinks i'm on bikeland and thinks i'm that gixxer kid,really man get a life i'm not that bad. I got into one heated argument with one guy and you jump in the middle and start saying all this horrible shit about me. Whose gixxer kid me or you?? Oh and one more thing smokinstorm where i come from when you start talkin about you what to race and my bike is faster,you look foolish saying i have riders that can take you on. REALLY what are you donald trump or something?? If your going to talk the talk ride the bike or don't get into the conversation. Even my friends said this guy is talkin all this smack and doesn't even what to race you himself. Now to stop all this fighting i'm done on the subject i'm not going to go back and forth internet fighting,this is stupid. I told you what the outcomes are of my races. Thats that. And what i said about lee i stand by. I don't know him but even he came on here and said what i was saying about the new 14r that's all. Take care and ride safe. [and tell all your riders who ride for you to ride safe to donald trump]!!

Gixxer kid....hmmmmm. Now where did you pluck that name out of thin air?:) For Christ sakes dude. You really must think people are stupid. You've caused more shit on at least two forums than anyone I've ever encountered. You know YOU are that Gixxer kid or for anyone else who would like to check on Bikeland-Gixxerjohn. If you're not him you're his twin..same whining...same defending how you're not that bad...and find it easy to apologize to folks after you call them "Fat Fucks". I'm also seriously doubting the "showed your friends" part of the post cause thad would mean that you actualy...oh never mind. Shall we take this farther with the this issue of your denial? Is it your intention to move here since you stated your intention was to "do nothing but ruin the bikeland forum"? What a joke.

Jagman,i think i speak for everyone YOU HAVE ISSUES. Did Gixxerjohn hurt you,did he make you cry or something. Sorry i'm not him,but if you want me to pretend to be him for you then i guess i can. And i said i was sorry to smokinstorm because i'm a man and can admit when i went over the line. Jagman do me a favor,keep out of the posts if all your going to do here is start trouble. And truthly i think your him,because why else would you keep bringing that little assholes name up?? I'm done responding to you. You need to get a life,you take this waaaaayyy to serious.

please guys can we get back to talking about the topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! who cares if this guy likes to start trouble just ignore him , anyway just raced my best friends bone stock 2011 zx14 against my 2012 zx14r with slip -on exhaust,he weighs 185 i weigh 230 , we raced from 2nd gear roll at about 6,500-7,000 rpms and raced to 160-165mph he said i beat him by about 4-5 bikes , so im super pumped about my bike !!!!!! i cant wait to brock it out and pick up that extra 15-20 hp

[quoteJagman,i think i speak for everyone YOU HAVE ISSUES. Did Gixxerjohn hurt you,did he make you cry or something. Sorry i'm not him,but if you want me to pretend to be him for you then i guess i can. And i said i was sorry to smokinstorm because i'm a man and can admit when i went over the line. Jagman do me a favor,keep out of the posts if all your going to do here is start trouble. And truthly i think your him,because why else would you keep bringing that little assholes name up?? I'm done responding to you. You need to get a life,you take this waaaaayyy to serious.][/quote]

LMAO...You are him. You really do think people are stupid don't you. Read one of your posts on Bikeland, Gixxerjohn and read one of them on here and it's obvious. You know it, I know it, the American people know it:)
So pathetic. Nice job trying to start a new life over here with your BS. You are so owned.
The only people you may speak for or those who have no knowledge of your "other" life on bikeland, that you deny, with good reason I should add. Care to share a few of those delightful PM's you threw around to members?
Do you really think it's hard to determine who folks are from one forum to the next? Guess you haven't figured that out or you might stop protesting so much about who you aren't:)

Good kill injfuel,i thought you would beat him by a lil more but you are heavier,good job. Yes the brocks exhaust will wake her up but nowhere near 20hp. I agree jagman a.k.a. gixxerboy wants to keep the thread about him,arguing back and forth,thats what he does over in bikeland,he is a thread stealer. Just ingore him and he'll go away. Again good kill.

* Last updated by: zx14racer on 6/3/2012 @ 2:12 PM *

,thats what he does over in bikeland,he is a thread stealer. Just ingore him and he'll go away. Again good kill.

Not true and again you know it. You're a sick idiot. It won't take long for you to shit in your nest over here. My apologies to the OP and the topic. I'm done. BTW the pretty sure the comment regarding the "guy" who likes to start trouble is you dumb ass.
Sorry to others again..