2021 Suzuki Hayabusa Exclusive:

Looks amazing.
But less power?

* Last updated by: yannih on 2/6/2021 @ 9:40 PM *

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Texting Rook this morning. Down 8hp and 3lbft. Same frame,engine, smaller T-bodies... The Hayabusa community is PISSED and rightfully so.

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Don't give them MY name rook LOL

Don't worry chrly. I didn't name names. Turns out you were exactly correct though. I think a lot of busa owners would agree with you. The one's that put money on a 2021 busa hopefully will be able to wrangle that transaction over toward the purchase of a 14R.

Yep, the new busa was designed to keep selling the busa as it always has been while complying with Euro 6 requirements. It's a good card and they're playing it again albeit with less performance while even acquiring less fuel economy.

Everything is cool. Go about your ZX-14 business unless you will be the first to post the soon to follow Hitler video.

* Last updated by: Rook on 2/5/2021 @ 6:04 AM *

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I was so looking forward to the 3rd generation release. I love the hayabusa. Bought an 06 new and had it for 12 years before I sold it. I waited and waited for the new one but I got tired of waiting so I bought a 2018 zx14r. I love this bike also but when I saw the release coming up I was so excited and ready to trade back. That is until I saw the actual numbers and to say the least I was heart broken. I was so disappointed in the new bike hp numbers. same 1340cc. So I am officially DONE with suzuki.

And that answers that... http://www.zx14ninjaforum.com/userfiles/chrly/busa1.jpg

WOT the wire I have a lag-glitch?
Here, let me help you with the rear brake apply.
Double click my lever is a hill climb.
Dead spark my full throttle opening at different rpm modes.
Euro shittyits enact an emissions per pound of gas spent spewing more unspent to get to the same place?
I can't get enough of the modes/axes/alpha/digital/e-brake my clutch basket in analog speak.
Leaky base gasket says what?

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I know one thing.I ride WAY too fast.I gotta slow up and enjoy the ride.

It’s a great looking bike, but more power should have been a TOP priority.

I’m actually kind of glad because I thought I was about to have to buy a new bike.

* Last updated by: Nastynotch on 2/5/2021 @ 10:39 AM *

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Revealed today.....just watched the video. No turbo, updated electronics package, same size engine. Down low makes a bit more power. A LOT OF $$$$!!!

Don't know how accurate the below information is but if true it's pretty disappointing...

2021 Suzuki GSX1300R Hayabusa
Engine displacement 1,340 cc
Power 140kW
Torque 150Nm
0-100 km/h 3.2sec
0-200 km/h 6.8sec
Top speed 299 km/h
Transmission 6-speed
Fuel tank capacity 20.0L
Kerb weight 264 kg
Pricing $18,599

2021 Kawasaki ZX-14R Ninja
Engine displacement 1,441 cc
Power 155 kW
Torque 153.5Nm
0-100km/h 2.6 sec
0-200km/h 7.0 sec
Top speed 299 km/h
Transmission 6-speed
Fuel tank capacity 22.0L
Kerb weight 269 kg
Pricing $15,199

* Last updated by: yannih on 2/5/2021 @ 6:56 PM *

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It does look nice, but I was really hoping for a supercharger, turbo, or at the very least 1440cc..

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Nice looking bike, smaller better looking stock mufflers than the 14R, but that's because of the lower HP & TQ targets. I like the addition of the cruise control & heated grips.

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Yep.Nice addons for sure.Probably looks REALLY good in person.It is nice.

As Nasty said, check out the Hayabusa forums re the new Gen 3 Busa release.

So many passionate and loyal Busa fanatics all expressing such disappointment and disgust.
And most saying they will save their $20k and stick with their more powerful Gen2's.

Damning for Suzuki.

What were they thinking when they knew the number one requirement for their customers regarding any Hayabusa upgrade was more power in the new engine.

Not less!

* Last updated by: yannih on 2/6/2021 @ 9:41 PM *

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I think something else, maybe emmisions politics, is at play here. Surely no one doubts that Suzuki could quite easily have increased the power and torque figures of the new model substantially if they wanted to. Or maybe they knew of Kawasaki's intention to phase out the 14R so a "facelifted" Busa rather than a completely new, benchmark setting model would suffice? Just supposing here.

* Last updated by: pegscraper on 2/7/2021 @ 8:14 AM *

Tought Tiities for Sazook. 13 years to update and this is the best they can do. Make less power ....

Kawy should supercharge the 14, that I would buy in a heartbeat. Put on electronic dampers as well like on the new H2 Sx Se+.

BB

* Last updated by: busabim on 2/7/2021 @ 8:25 AM *

Or maybe they knew of Kawasaki's intention to phase out the 14R so a "facelifted" Busa rather than a completely new, benchmark setting model would suffice? Just supposing here.

Either that or they were afraid their R&D would be all for not if they put a 1440 engine in the busa. Kawasaki has been ready to upstage a 14 killer for some years now. Suzuki waited too long. The goal for the Hayabusa may be to make an engine that resists the harsh forces of turbo better than the last. Only thing is the last engine responded just fine to any turbo most people would put on it. If they wanted a monster turbo, they built the engine which would cost about the same as the new engine which has smaller throttle bodies and I hope that's the only step backwards they took in making a new turbo platform if that's what it is.

Kawy should supercharge the 14, that I would buy in a heartbeat. Put on electronic dampers as well like on the new H2 Sx Se+.

I really doubt the new busa will hurt sales of the ZX-14R but Kaw might just take one more big leap forward. I think who's the king of power is already decided but you never know. Sales would skyrocket. Could be worth it. Then they'd need to make a big update the H2 as well though. I sort of doubt any of this will happpen. Can you imagine the insurance on stock bikes knocking on the 300 hp door?

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Waiting for real world testing head to head to see how this comes out. Not in the market for another new bike but it will be interesting. Not a Busa hater here just someone who appreciates different bikes.

* Last updated by: jstewart on 3/5/2021 @ 9:24 AM *

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Yeah, I'm waiting too. What's for certain is the new busa needs to be modified if it has any greater potential than the Gen2 busa. I don't know how many of these bikes will make it to the US and Canada in the next six months where it would seem most likely owners would modify. I also don't know how many people bought the new busa wanting to modify it. From what they're saying, the ECU might be very difficult to crack for flashing. It might be necessary to buy a race ECU on top of everything else. I won't be surprised if we don't see any dyno sheets for almost a year. I have this gnawing feeling the Gen3 busa will be more work than it's worth and still end up falling short of the 14R. It might be better equipped to withstand the stress of turbo than the previous gen but with the cost of the stock bike, it might come out a wash. Suzuki either dropped the ball or they set us up for the biggest surprise in hyperbike history.

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Time will tell Rook. Truth be told there is not that much market for these bikes anymore. The numbers sold are miniscule compared to 750's and 1000's, not to mention cruisers. It will surprise me if Suzuki comes out with a higher performance version given the market demand. I suspect the reason they didn't was because of the tighter emissions specs in Europe. Suzuki is certainly capable of meeting or surpassing the performance mark set by the ZX14R's as is Kawasaki and Honda.

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Suzuki is certainly capable of meeting or surpassing the performance mark set by the ZX14R's

They could have, but they didn't.
Look at the Suzuki and Hayabusa forums to see what damage this has done.

A golden opportunity missed.
So disappointing for all and sundry.

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I'm guessing whatever this stock bike 'lacks' in power,it makes up for in ride quality.Shifting.All that.Looks really well put together.I'll ride one if I get a chance.I like the styling actually.Even if it looks like a gxxer frontend,it's still very nice.They did a good job with it I think.Nice tail...lamps.

I'd think they would have upped the power,but they had their reasons.Sa'll good.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 3/8/2021 @ 11:32 PM *

Completely agree Green.

But it could have been perfect rather than half done with a superior power and torque rating to anything else...

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I wouldn't even call it half done. It has a couple nice electronics but it has less power. At best, it's equal to the previous Gen. This spells the end for hyperbike lineage. The 14R will sell as long as it can where it can and then we're left with the less powerful Haybusa. This is probably the time to buy a 14R if you don't already have one. I don't know how many more years the 14R will be available in countries that don't have to comply with Euro 5.

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Found a real world test for new Busa

Copy and paste this : https://youtu.be/oHg5SJYRHA0

* Last updated by: carabuser on 3/23/2021 @ 5:19 PM *

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damn you.

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