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Thread: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod

Created on: 08/01/18 06:43 PM

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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/04/18 7:37 PM

fuck. fuck. fuck. fuck.

I really hoped the b-12 stuff would have worked. I went for a test ride and it pulls real hard when it isn't studdering. idles perfect. Just as soon as I give it any throttle it hesitates a lot and then goes/hesitates/goes, etc. wot on the freeway I was teleportting in front of cars at will but many this thing is borderline unridable.

In all fairness I did go a little over-board on the b-12......I ended up putting in 4 cans total with double the amount of fuel. It ran well and I watched the temps.....even had an extra box fan under the bike to make sure it was not hot when I would go inside for a few minutes.
I didn't drain out the b-12 but added 3 gallons of fuel and then went for a test drive. It still could have 7-10 times too much b-12 in it, if my math is correct.

Joel

tomorrow I will pump out the fuel tank and take a close look inside. I don't think it is the pump but I will test ride it with pure gas in it and see how it rides. Then decide what to do Monday.


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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/04/18 9:56 PM

Those fairing cracks are going to start opening up within a few hundred miles. nothing vibrates as hard as fairings.

My feeling is quit pouring stuff in the gas tank like there's no tomorrow. I'm worried you're going to wreck something.

Maybe it's me. I never do things the easy way unless I really know what's going on which is rarely when it comes to wrenching. Slow and methodical and it will turn out right eventually. Doing stuff that you don't know what it's doing ---you don't know what's going to happen.

The fuel pump seems ok. I'd be taking the injectors out. It will be a bunch of work but you will need to sepparate those throttle bodies connectors to install a PC anyway. I would take the T-bodies out and put the PC5 in when you reinstall. Make sure there is no map in the PC5.



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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/04/18 11:23 PM

had an extra box fan under the bike to make sure it was not hot when I would go inside for a few minutes.
I didn't drain out the b-12 but added 3 gallons of fuel and then went for a test drive. It still could have 7-10 times too much b-12 in it, if my math is correct.

I would ride the bike to burn gas rather than letting it idle. I'd also raise the idle to 1000 at least. JMHO, Hub feels a low idle gives the crankshaft a beating. Seems to make sense. Please stop pouring stuff that isn't fuel down that thing!

Well I'm off to my new home in Winter WI tomorrow so IDK how much I will be able to pop in for a while. Don't know how much I can surf the forum at school and I'm not sure what kind of internet access to get at home.

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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/04/18 11:53 PM

I went out to the garage and drained the tank with a siphone and then pushed the rest out with the pump and key method. I had to swallow some pride and admit my excessive b-12 addiction....Had to laugh when you called me on it. I now have a clean tank and will test drive in the morning. Upping the idle to 1000....had it at 950 so not much change there. I am done with fuel additives. I didn't know you had to hook a PCV up to the throttle bodies. I assumed it plugged into the ECU. I may get more experience than I bargained for with this bike but I am determined to get to the bottom of this without the stealerships help.

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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/05/18 12:05 AM

steps 1 and 2 only. You just need to separate the two main plugs to remove the T-bodies or to install a PC5.

I don't necessarily think you need to go with the underseat install but this will show you the plugs.

IDK if you must take the T-bodies out to remove injectors but seems probable. There's not much room in there to take anything out without taking the whole thing out. There are links to the tutorials posted above in this one. I'd just follow it and click the links as you come to them. Don't forget the DO FIRST links or the DO LAST ones if I have those in the tutorial.

I've never removed injectors so I don't know what you're up against there.


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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/05/18 8:13 PM

I really think my method of cleaning the injectors was ideal.....cleans the rail too. There is no way in hell that my injectors weren't spraying clean after that much carb cleaner went through them. It didn't even run rough while I was doing it. Fire hazard....potential yes. Time saver....fucking right it was. Bike doesn't accelerate....its a damn time machine. Just gotta fix the misfire. At idle it is missing....that is the tapping I am feeling through the tank. I am going to pull the coils and plugs tomorrow and check the coils to see if they are in spec and look at the plugs. I will keep them in order so I know which cylinder was not firing. Well the good news is my fuel tank is spotless and my pump likely works just fine, and I have sparkling clean injectors. So all in all it was a good experience. I also managed to fix my fairings. super-glue with jb plastic weld on top with a popsicle stick welded in just to add in support. Can't see any of it when the fairings are on.

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injector cleaning mod....I am sure I am not the only one to try this.
Unhook the fuel pump from the fuel line.....put a 1/4 inch hose on the fuel pump and clamp it snug. 4 feet of hose....other end I had to slightly sand down to get it to feed into the fuel line. feeds in until it hits the stop about a 1/3"....when you are sure it is perfect then fill the 4 foot hose with carb cleaner spray. It is plenty of cleaner to do 4 injectors clean. wiggle the fuel line and bubbles will come out which fills the fuel line with carb cleaner too, top off the hose, then force the sanded hose into the fuel line. Then I taped it in place with electrical tape so that the pressure in the line wouldn't blow it off.

turn key on and watch fuel pump pressurize line....wait a beat and see if it is leaking....if not then start bike...turn idle up to 2500 rpms and wait an appropriate amount of time for the carb cleaner to go through injectors. I waited about 3-4 minutes....turn off bike. unhook hose clamp drain gas from line and repeat. process again. Bike was notably faster during test drive.

Can't imagine how much time I saved not taking out fuel injectors and putting them back in again. Best part is that you can do this more often since it is so quick and easy.....total time about 45 minutes.

keep hand on key the whole time so that in an emergency you can shut down the bike. can't stress this enough. also keep your hose away from the exhaust. I had all of it in a card-board box to keep it seperate from the bike.

I am sure someone is gonna hate this so bring on your negative comments.


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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/05/18 10:12 PM

I must admit, I didn't think it was going to work very well but I'm glad it did.

I wonder how long it takes for the engine to clear 40 inches of hose filled with carb cleaner. Will the bike run on that? Seems like it would just turn over and not burn or worse---burn to fast!

At idle it is missing....that is the tapping I am feeling through the tank.

Are you sure it not the normal lopey sounding idle? Everyone notices that it sounds like the motor skips a beat every few seconds at idle. My busa does the same thing. That bike actually was running on 3 cylinders one time and I couldn't tell. The only way I knew was it was displaying a code. Of course, I didn't ride it hard like that. Maybe I would have noticed it was running on 3 cylinders if I did.



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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/06/18 1:27 PM

No I am sure it is not the normal every 5 second miss....that one does not make a tap feel through the tank. I took out the plugs and looked at them....they were perfect, and all looked the same. gap was all consistent at .35. All the cois were in the middle of the spec range at 1.4/9.5 I reinstalled the coils with a very light oil on them and put it all back together....easiest plug change I have ever done. Only about 3-4 things you need to disconnect to get at all of them. When the new plugs come I will set them on the shelf for 5k miles and then changed them.

Where do I go from here? Time to start checking anything that wouldn't throw a computer light on the dash.

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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/06/18 3:10 PM

As I have reiterated, this bike is as bulletproof as raising the standard of the other brands to meet this bike's credentials. We are talking right out of the crate faultless in every way. If there are no codes, there is nothing to chase. Gas [oil - comes from the same crude] are detergents. You could clean your hands off with gas or oil and it would cut into the dirt. Same goes with the injectors. The gas will eventually clean the injectors if you use Shell or Chevron with said injector/oil deposit additives. I ran costco gas for awhile. Saw the carbon on the valves. Switched to Shell and peeked again. Those deposits were gone. I'm a believer in chemistry.

Ride to clean injectors.
Use injector cleaner per ratio. (shot glass to 5.8gal)
Change plugs every 7,500 per book.
Change ac element by half the book's interval... meaning every 12k not 24k. (runs rich the more you ride).
Pump wise, agree with me on the diagnosis and what I've come across with pump delivery.
1. Does the pump itself (not connected) give out a good flow like a horse pissing or a mouse pissing. Like a horse.
2, Does the bike fall on its face when I reach redline or climbing close to redline? No.
3. Does the bike start right up? Yes, instantly.

Let's recap:
1. When the pump stops, that's about 45psi to send fuel out the injectors times 4. That kind of pressure has to meet those lists of requirements or we can point to the pump.
2. When there is no lag at the upper rpm levels it has met that 45psi requirement or it would fall on its face that fast with that kind of speed feeding 4 injectors thousands of times a minute. Chalk off this requirement.
3. When the proof of the pudding comes thru, this means bulletproof from the time that keyfob turns on and you hit the starter button, this thing is going to start fast as fukeyduckey that's Bulletproof from part A to part Z, no codes present.


Book says it only works one way we research the diagnostic tree.

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...that one does not make a tap feel through the tank.

That could mean a fuel miss rather than a plug per say. So say on a cold engine where you can leave it overnight, start the engine and then turn it off. The trick is to not let it run more than a second. That's a long time times hundreds of fire offs warming up the pipes. With that said; who stayed cold if feeling the header pipe closes to the head? There's your clogged injector. The others should be warm. It's not spark because all 4 run hot (feel). It's not the coil because it fires off. Rule out compression because it runs. Spark and fuel remain. Spark fires, fuel remains. No code at the coils, no code at the injectors because it's not electrical. The hell if it knows it's clogged to code. Make sense?

I took out the plugs and looked at them....they were perfect, and all looked the same.

That means they were dry, yes? That means they were white at the porcelain or light tan, yes?

I reinstalled the coils with a very light oil on them and put it all back together

Not what you want to do. Only problem using anti-seize, oil, it more sticks or gums up the threads. It also retains heat as does oil. You want to transfer metal-on-metal without a barrier in between. The fear is the chemical reaction you cannot separate when dealing with electricity's heat, aka: magnetism. So the electrolysis that bonds or welds the threads together and tears them up coming out, you remove the plugs more often to breakup that chemRE.
Plug checking is to check for gap, burn, and cylinder failure. Rather than pull the engine down, if oil goes past the rings, it heads up the plug threads. You want to have dry threads every time or something is up. This way, you contaminated the evidence sort of speak.

Where do I go from here? Time to start checking anything that wouldn't throw a computer light on the dash.

Sans swapping the injectors out, ride it to clean it. I'm trying to remember if I had a bog on my 2006. I ran without flies, without air cleaner [drag], without pc, and I'd more wheelie at the bottom end range than bog when grabbing a handful.


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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/06/18 5:31 PM

Change ac element by half the book's interval... meaning every 12k not 24k. (runs rich the more you ride).

My time to change the air filter is about 8000 miles. 11,000 and it's extremely dirty.

Only problem using anti-seize, oil, it more sticks or gums up the threads. It also retains heat as does oil. You want to transfer metal-on-metal without a barrier in between.

ChewToy is talking coils, not plugs. I always grease the ribs on my coils. Never had a problem taking them out and as far as I can tell, nothing has ever got in the wells



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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/06/18 7:02 PM

hub and Rook,

thank you for spending time to help me. I appreciate it more than I come off.
When I say I lightly oiled the coils.....I mean I put some oil on them and then wipped them off. It is such as small amount not worth debating, not even enough to collect dirt much less drip on any threads.

yes, the fuel pump pisses like a horse when the key goes on. Is 6 feet across the room enough pressure? This bike goes like a raped ape when it is done studdering about the 4k-5k range. It has a shit idle but is stable and not turning off. It also starts every time right away. It misses a lot and I feel every miss that I hear resonating through the tank.

I checked again today and there are no codes....just goes right to the language option.
I can't get my pics to transfer but The plugs look good....no ash, no wetness, light tan ceramic, gap in spec, threads have some carbon on them....thats it. They cleaned up very easily.

I have ordered a used pump as I didn't want to abuse Hammerheads kindness and he agreed that 62.50 for a working pump was a good deal and that I should go that route. I will take off the tank....fill it with some kerosene the morning before my pump arrives and then flush it with a gallon of fuel a couple of times and leave over to evaporate. Then I will rinse it with another half gallon and hook new pump up.....then I will use the new pump to pump out the half gallon into a bucket to get any residual gas left in the used pump out before I hook it up to my fuel line. Then I will do my injector cleaner mod with a couple of feet of carb cleaner just since it is all set up that way anyway. So my tank will be clean the new pump will have no old gas in it, the fuel injectors will be freshly cleaned and I will fire it up and hope for the best.

sound good?

I love working on this fucking bike.....I just did almost 400 bucks worth of repairs to the bike this morning by doing the plugs my self and bench testing my coils. Didn't cost me anything.

thanks
Joel
oh, and i fixed the front fairings.....some jackass had them all fucked up and on wrong. That is why you never let anyone else work on your bike!


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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/06/18 11:18 PM

ChewToy is talking coils, not plugs.

Oopseas. I did read that wrong, but that spark plug electrolysis was for your info, Rook. What you want for the coil rubber is to use a lip balm. It's petroleum jelly. Same shit I believe when they make dielectric grease in a tube.

The gas swapping is way overdoing it. It's real simple. Toss the gas from the bike into the car's tank. Fill the bike tank with premium after installing the good known part, i.e., the pump that's coming. This determines if it's the pump or the plugs. If it clears up it was the pump. If it changed nothing, change the spark plugs.

This is a computer bike. There is nothing to do but set valves, change elements, lube chain, check hardware for tightness, you're done. There should not be a miss, cough, hez, zilch. Say you went for the plugs and still no joy. Next would be the ECU to swap out and test.


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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/07/18 8:01 AM

Thanks hub, I will be doing the plugs as soon as my coils arrive. I got a set off an 11 with 3500 miles....if you can believe the ebay seller. My coils were in spec at 1.2-1.4 /9500 ish on all but that is not a running test which I believe can show the real condition. For 40 bucks it was worth it to me to rule out the misfire. There is not much associated with this particular symptom that doesn't throw a code, so that narrows down the list. If I explained it right I put the old plugs back in because the new ones aren't going to be delivered until at least Friday. So by Monday evening I will have ruled out the plugs, coils, and pump...
Is vasaline ok to use on the boots.....and I mean just enough for it to move side to side easier in the hole.....sounds perverted. lol.

I am able to drive it this way. It is harder on the clutch due to feathering more but this beast can take it for another week just fine.

Joel

Does anyone know how to tell if my tires are original? I don't think it is ok to be on tires that are 12 years old even if the tread is still good and rubber has no cracks, etc.


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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/07/18 8:06 AM

As the Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance master says

This is a computer bike. There is nothing to do but set valves, change elements, lube chain, check hardware for tightness, you're done. There should not be a miss, cough, hez, zilch. Say you went for the plugs and still no joy. Next would be the ECU to swap out and test.

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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/07/18 8:17 AM

Does anyone know how to tell if my tires are original? I don't think it is ok to be on tires that are 12 years old even if the tread is still good and rubber has no cracks, etc.

All tires have a date code, check the date code on the tire.

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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/07/18 9:56 AM

I would use a silicone based lube on the boots. Vaseline is petroleum based and can break down rubber over time. Even tho that’s what we used on water tight seals on M113’s in the Army, the knowledge and thinking on it has changed over time. Silicone grease is all I’ll use on my moonroof seals to keep them pliable.


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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/07/18 11:25 AM

oops.

mine said 0607......I suppose tires aren't like wine. I ordered some tires. They are cheap but then I have spent enough cash this month. You guys will make fun of me.....continental road attack 2 GT tires on closeout for 181 bucks shipped. I got a guy that mounts and balances them for 50 bucks. I went with the 190/55 tire in the back. I know a lot of guys like the 200/55 but I didn't want to raise the back that far up. Thanks for setting me straight on tires.

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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/07/18 9:56 PM

I'd love to start in with... pee troll lee yum jell he, but that's just me. Who cares if the lip balm, vaseline, silicone, dielectric grease decomposes rubber. You'll be old&gray before it begins to do funny things. It's metal flow, not rubber flow. I'm not worried. The electrolysis is at the plug tip and inner cap. So a little dab will do you there, the lip balm swiped around the sparkstick body and twist it back down till it stops. Now, you may have a stick not sent all the way home is one variable for a gap from cap to plug = Misfire.

Again, you should have deduced that 'what are the chances and/or odds all sticks are out of spec,' but all 4 were consistent. Where did you go wrong? Get it?

Tire wise, the profile, print, pattern cuts are going to change. Who cares if they are years old. The integrity is still there. You want to hot rod the roads, you buy fresh race worthy rubber at the premium price. When it comes to tires, my first name is 'Closeout.'



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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/07/18 10:13 PM

Again, you should have deduced that 'what are the chances and/or odds all sticks are out of spec,' but all 4 were consistent. Where did you go wrong? Get it?
What?
The only thing about the plugs that irritates me is that my plug gapper didn't go below .40.....40 would not go between any of the plugs. but I believe spec is .32-.36, so if a couple were above .36 and the flies mod has leaned out that exact range too much then mis-fire. I bought a new spark plug gap tool. that goes down to .2 so I can accurately gap them at .34 and reinstall or wait a few days for the plugs. I don't like to wait, and I have nothing better to do then to chase this gremlin, so in the morning I will check to see what the plugs are gapped at and regap them.

what exactly am I lip balming? the tip of the plug or the shaft of the stick coil?

do you mean my tires are fine to ride on? because they have about 2k miles left of tread.

I am going to end up selling the pump and coils on Ebay after I rule them out.

How can a misfire not trigger a code?

There must be a crack in the spark plug or something.

I don't know.

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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/08/18 7:40 AM

The bike fires off like right now = Not the sparksticks.
The bike can reach redline at any mph = Not the sparksticks.
The sparkstick has a code for each plug and can tell who's cylinder failed = No stick codes.
The spark plugs come with the manufacturer's gap preset and ready to install.
The lip balm stabs the plug threads and what clings to the threads is = All she wrote.
The lip balm coats the ribs of the sparkstick (that drag on the head) so the lube sends the stick down to the plug easier.

Install new plugs now and test ride. Do not touch the gap when installing new plugs. You drop a plug, find the package all beat up, then yeah check gap. Do one thing at a time or learn nothing swapping out the sticks, plugs, pump, injectors all at once and it clears up = Who was it then? Get it?

Speaking to one closeout to another... The tires are not about to spit a chunk out, a bubble somewhere around the carcass is visible, the cracks widen, no. Play out the parts this side of showing cord.

Misfires are not code induced. There has to be a locked in time that changes the analog(think many different input signals) to where the sensor/stick/injector fails to send in many signals and just keeps entering the same value over and over (think of a single digit), or the same digital number over and over again. So say the rotor starts from a dead stop, then spins that magnet and produces a volt value. The more the engine spins, the more the volts change. That's analog. If you disconnected the stator connector from the volt regulator, there would be the same number (0) input to the computer more or less and then a code spits when it does not receive many numbered inputs.

Time wise, the misfire is not a constant to set the ECU to spit a code out. There is still analog entering to formulate the calc so no code will set. It's complex and simple at the same time... understanding how a code is set.


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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/08/18 11:23 AM

ok, hub.

that sounds like a plan. I checked the plugs and they were between 33 and 36.....i set them at 33.
I think as you said earlier that I should identify the cylinder that is the issue. I don't think you were intending on me to stick my face next to the headers, I couldn't fit in there and won't do it anyway. Would I be able to keep my hand on it and see which one is not as warm? if not...
How else can I determine which one is the misfire?
would shooting a stream of water at the headers as they warm up cause the misfire cylinder to not steam up as much as the other ones?
ok, this is what I did this morning.....took a few hours.
I pulled the tank and the fuel pump to see if I put it back together right.....looked good. reinstalled. rubbed inside of tank with my fingers. no residue.
cleaned injectors again with my ghetto setup.
pulled plugs and gaped them all at .33
took it for a ride. It was better by about 25% or so. Same problems still exist but not as severe. stopped for gas and filled it up with 87 octane, cause it is 70 cents cheaper per gallon. Started riding and noticed right away another 25% improvement. It is still doing it but it is now pretty subtle. It was a joy to ride it today.

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I heard my gas tank whistling from the gas cap....no biggie from other posts, but then it did it every 10 minutes for an hour while I worked on the plugs. The only thing that looks like a gas tank vent is the little nipple an the back of the tank with a tiny hose on it. I routed it last week so that it was not impinged.
Not sure what to make of this but I am hopeful that new plugs will cure the rest of the problem.

thanks
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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/08/18 5:35 PM

I've used axle grease on my stick coil ribs about 4 times over the years and no problems. I guess dialectric (silicone) grease would be safer for rubber. Both cause rubber to swell. Petroleum supposedly makes rubber soften up. I wouldn't bother with it.

stopped for gas and filled it up with 87 octane, cause it is 70 cents cheaper per gallon.

That will make your exhaust popping more severe. It burns faster. It also is more likely to predetonate. That's why they specify 90 or higher octane for all bikes. I've used regular and midgrade a couple times and no problems but I stick with premium now. Also, premium is usually ethanol free. Ethanol is supposed to be really bad on rubber parts in the fuel system. I've stored with regular a couple times and no problems but I only use premium now to avoid any gas related problems.


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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/08/18 5:57 PM

Ok, thanks for telling me about the octane.....I ride about 2-3 hours per day so it is much cheaper to buy 87 with ethanol but I did notice some popping on engine breaking so I will switch to 91 with no ethanol.

The bike is still about 50% better....I have put 1100 miles on it since buying it 2 weeks ago so I think the cobwebs are gone and it will stay like this until I find the solution.

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My PCV came in the mail. I though they had a usb plug on the side. I see two plugs but I don't know what they are....I will google it. I am not going to hook it up until the bike is fixed.



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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/08/18 8:10 PM

if it was me i would follow the process of elimination outlined by the Hubster. Once that is complete I would read the map in the new used PC (via a USB port and DJ SW) and see what is in there. I would then be talking to DJ about the issues I was having and get a map from them (or Rookster) that you could trust. would then install and compare the differences.

I do hope you work this out, Vic.

My '06 was a monster w/ 180 HP via a PCIII and a great dyno tune and it was smooth as glass.



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RE: schnitz ECU flash vs flies removal mod
08/08/18 10:47 PM

I edited my coment above about gease softening rubber. It is petroleum that does that. Silicone and petroleum both cause some swelling in rubber which improves sealing but silicone is not supposed to soften rubber.

I though they had a usb plug on the side.

It's there on one of the shorter edges. It has a black rubber plug in it. Turn the main wire so it points to your left while you hold it in front of you. The plug is on the top edge. The larger ports are for connecting other DJ devices (Ignition Module and POD-300) if you want.

My map is based on Romans map. I have one that is my own AFR table (straight 13.1) so I guess that is mine? I can email it to you. It should be safe if you are about 500 feet sea level. It is tuned as lean as Romans recommended. I like his a bit better with his multiple AFRs but I can't give that out without permission.


Damn Romans always disappears for 5 months after one post. Thing is he never has told me to give his map out or NO and I have asked about it a couple times at least. So I take that as NO.

Also consider if the ECU is flashed like rudy suggested. Tat could be why it's not running up to snuff. You would not want to throw my map in if you were already running lean.

The only way you can find out if your eCU is flashed is send it to a tuner who can look at it with software.

I doubt it is flashed being it is an 06 with such few miles but you never know.


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