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Thread: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?

Created on: 06/05/12 07:56 PM

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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/07/12 6:33 PM

"If they even own a bike??"....LOL...see what I mean?No names...nuthin..nada..zero....zippity do dah....and we get 7 pipers pipingLMAO!!!!!!(well...okay...one...better than nothin I guess."FRESH FISH FRESH FISHROFL!!!!!)

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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/07/12 11:33 PM

You guys are wonderful. All this technical info and laughs too. I LOVE THIS BLOG!!
My beautiful "blue" is out of break-in (hell on earth) and I finally got to take it up in to the higher rpms.
It reminded me of my zx11, the faster i went, the smoother it got. I had the usual light clunking around town during break in, but after going with full synthetic I definitely could feel a difference. This bike is amazing.
Motero, hope you get your problem fixed so you can enjoy and fully realize what an awesome machine this is.



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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 12:15 AM

WHEEEEEEE!!!Out of break-in....roll baby,roll.

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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 6:26 AM

"That makes 3 R's with questionable shifts"...that makes NOTHING..nada...nobody knows who riding what..or if they even own a bike.

LOL...see what I mean?No names

that there is a direct reference to me, unless you have a possesed hand that type on its own, and you arent aware , Mr.Hyde
Give it a rest, i think this is where you were looking for http://sn.soapnet.go.com/



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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 9:11 AM

"that there is a direct reference to me",

"nobody knows who riding what..or if they even own a bike".....How about this then...."Hi,my aka is Grn...I love this forum...I've got 10 bikes sittin here....nice ones.I've been ridin for 45 years....I own two personal jets....one Sprint car...and I just wanted to say...'HI" and I'm concerned about my zx14...."

Another member here says...."Hiya Grn!Wow!Quite a stable ya got there....I own three personal watercrafts..two firetrucks,and a Busa and zx14....glad yer here....".....

Which guy is on the level?Not everyone on this site or others is a bike owner...truth.Not everyone on this site or others are fond of the new bike.Truth.Not everyone on this site or others wants to hear about the new bike.Truth.NOBODY knows people's motives here or anywhere....it's all on trust.That's it.When someone posts up about a strange issue...one that few have ever heard of..it's gonna raise questions in SOME people's minds as to WHY it's here.

Saying "MY bike is taking a dump...help me fix this":...means nothing.NOBODY knows who's got what....even me....you don't know if I have a bike or not.Do you?The point is...the issue you are describing is...odd...very.How many guys posted up HERE...or anywhere really....that their shift lever was not acting right.And I don't mean...notchy shifting.

I'm not saying it COULDN'T be...but to asume there are actually 3 guys in real life that'r having a shifting issue with the new bike...when the evidence is WAY slim...and tell others..."Hey....don't buy that bike...it shifts shitty"...is kinda jumping the gun,wouldn't you say?No vids of this problem(like there were with frame cracks)...nothing...but the words of 3 guys that POSSIBLY are trying to screw with the real owners of the new bike.Who knows...and that's what I'm saying...no one DOES know...it's all words at a keyboard....until someone actually documents it with something other than..."hey guys,I'm having a problem"....if it was something common...then ya...but this that you're describing?3 out of how many new bikes out there?Thousands....many thousands...and only 3 guys have this 'problem'?You can see why I would be skeptical...especially when all the guys here that have one report NO shifting issus..and say she shifts like butter.

NOBODY here knows you...or me.NOBODY here can say with certainty..."hey...that GRN...he LOVES the new 14R".Only me....I can.And I can tell everyone here all day long I love it....does that mean I actually have one?Maybe I'm out to 'sell' new bikes.How would anyone know...unless they saw me and saw my life personally.ANYONE can post ANYTHING for ANY reason on the net.When someone says..."my bike is doing this"....and virtually everyone else's is fine in that area....it isn't totally convincing...see what I mean...not that it isn't happening...but.....


"That makes 3 R's with questionable shifts"..and I say..show me the money...since I'm having NO issues with mine..and none of the guys HERE are either.He SHOULD have said..."and that makes POSSIBLY 3 14R's with questionable shifts"....not state it as fact...especially coming from HIM....mr skeptical himself.

Do I care if NO ONE believes I have a bike?PFFFT!???You think any of these other guys riding their rocketships CARE if no one believes they have a bike?

Okay....try this then...just for the hell of it...go out...start your bike.Be sitting on it.Have it in nuetral...put the sidestand UP.Without clutching,try to toe up into second gear from nuetral.What happens?


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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 9:33 AM

i already know what wont happen if i try that, you obviously dont believe i have a bike, so, please dont bother replying, what would be the point unless you can fix imaginary bikes too,

, man you seem to have a lot of time on your hands, can you not just accept what i said for what it is??an honest to jaysus enquiry as to if anybody has a similar feeling? if not, thats ok.
theres a country out there somewhere that needs a few hot air ballons inflated
you talk about trust, and in the same breath allude to my posting of an strange happening like its there for some other reason, no trust there Mr Mulder
i posted it for one purpose only, never im my wildest fuking dreams did i imagine it would evolve into this, people suprise me everyday, thanks for playing your part.
Did i mention dont buy that bike? you buy more fairy dust to sprinkle on your stories?
So fukn what if you are sceptical, be sceptical, but why make such a big hulabaloo????
im not trying to scare any owners , im hoping to fuk mine is not a problem, hence my enquiry, 14,900 euros i paid, thats approx 18,500 dollars, why wouldnt i be concerned.

is this a forum where people ask questions? or kowtow in inferiority to the all knowing sages.


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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 9:53 AM

"i already know what wont happen"...just like you 'already know what's wrong with it?",now....If YOU were trying to help a guy with an attitude like YOURS...wouldn't YOU start wondering.."what the heck does this guy REALLY want?"


You haven't said anything since this first posting about any outcomes...any things you've tried that were suggested at the beginning.But you've spent you time here critcizing me...and why is that?EVERY POST you're saying..."you this and you that'.If you were me,don't you think you'd wonder what the hell is this REALLY about.NOBODY..and I mean NOBODY that comes here and has a tech question gets upset because others are offereing THEIR suggestions.Chuck didn't...read his post about his brake issue.Bluethunder got pissed because someone said..."I don't hear anything wrong"...and in fact...there WAS nothing wrong.

You got pissed from the first few posts..saying people(me) were saying 'you don't know how to shift" or whatever.Because I made a statement of"You shouldn't be shifting like you're at a racetrack"..or something like that...that wasn't saying you were..that was an open statement about ANYONE.You in that context meant..."me,they,those...others"....that's how it was meant.Sorry if ya didn't get that out of it."YOU" can mean several things depending on how it's used.It wasn't intended as a personal critique.Period.

You went on defending your "biking prowess"...and the whole thing got sidelined...and became a bash towards what I had said or whatever.The issue of the transmission got completely ditched...and since then..it's been about me,and what a jerk I am for NOT reading your mind.Okay?There it is.I can't read your mind.Sorry,I failed 'mindreading class' in college.My bad.

"Did i mention dont buy that bike?'...no...I never said YOU did.Read it again.In context.It's pretty darn clear....even a Caveman can get it.

"or kowtow in inferiority to the all knowing sages"...look...you've got a complex..that's real clear here...you think guys are against ya...say ya can't ride....want ya to Kowtow...whatever...that's YOUR head sayin that...not mine...not anyone elses.If you think I want you to Kowtow to me....you're wrong.There aint no experts on the 14 or 14r on THIS forum...no offense to you other guys.Not me...not Hub,not anyone.

And BTW...I'm not the ONLY one in this 'conversation' that seems to have..."time on their hands'....you're not doing so bad either..posting up these silly 'tit for tat' comments.Today just happens to be my day off...and it's raining.Otherwise,I'd be doing what I love to do...riding my excellently shifting zx14R through the canyons and having a blast.


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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 10:13 AM

"Well, what I thought was only going to be a minor repair has turned into a major project. My new Zx-14r only had 40 miles when I began to notice something was not right with the shifter lever. I first thought it was because the bike was new so I continued to drive it for a little over 100 miles. So, the next morning I called the dealership and I was told to bring the bike in to have it looked. They were able to duplicate the problem very easily. So, I was told that the clutch will need to be removed and inspected. The next day I received a phone call from the service manager. I was then told that the clutch and clutch basket looked good. The service manager also contacted Kawasaki tech support and was told to replace the shift fork and some other parts. Sounds simple I thought. Not really I was told. The engine will need to be removed and the block will need to be split. I'm very grateful that the dealership is doing their best to fix my bike. However my bike only has 149 miles on it. I just picked it up on May 23. Did I get stuck with a lemon?. I have had several Kawasaki sportbikes ,this is the first time I have ever had a problem with it. I havent even stopped to refill my fuel tank and the engine already needs to be removed. I was told by the service manager it will take about 2 weeks. My dealership has a great staff, I have been their customer for about 18 years. However, I must admit I'm a little concerned with the turnout of a major repair. I mean really, my bike only has 149 miles and now this"....

Now THIS sounds credible.I believe this guy.He's doing something about it.You're not...you're ragging on me instead..I would say...if you're mechanically inclined...open the case...check the shift forks,and shift star,and go from there.It sounds to me like this other guy is getting reamed by having to 'remove the engine'....yes...it does.To me anyway.If you are not sure how to check and replace these items...you can go to EvoStar Shift Star....google that.There is a full tutorial with pictures showing exactly how to do this inspection and work.I did....followed what it said...and had NO problems.This was on my 07 zx14,,,when I changed out the shift star.The 14R probably is very very similar in that area.You could look in the manual...or the parts fiche and compare parts in the diagrams...and see just how things are situated in there..then possibly do it yourself...if ya wanted.Just as a note here...when I did mine..I had NEVER evn cracked a bike case open...ever.Never had taken a clutch out.Nothing.Cold...first time doing it..on any bike.It went together exactly as should.Lucky for me I guess.

If your issue IS a shift fork/shift shaft problem...you should be able to replace that on your own...IF you feel like you want to.If I did it...YOU can do it.


Let me say this right here..so there's NO question...I DO believe your bike is having a problem as you say.So that should settle any future questions about how I think concerning your situation.


And before I get slammed for suggesting you do this yourself...if it were MY bike...I'd be having the dealer do this...just so it was documented correctly and on them.If it was happening 'out of warranty'...then yeah..I'd probably check it/replace it myself.


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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 10:28 AM

"Splitting the Cases"...'Removing the engine"...THIS I can't see with this kind of 'repair'....Having done it myself.There was NO drama...except when trying to remove the allen bolt inside where the flange on the shifting bearing was at.THAT had me worried...for a minute that is.It was extremely tight.

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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 10:58 AM

geenie? what are you talking about an old bike for? Dis here is about new R's use kidding me? Hi, I have a bowl of cereal and some fruit loops wit milk.... OK, what dies that half and half to do wit me trans 1-2 buck kill my shoe, 3-4, someone open the door... I smell smoke again!



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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 11:22 AM

...you're ragging on me instead..I would say...

I would say... GAS'd is the key here. How come you do not recognize it. Accept that your post was find, but not too fine in a specific sort of way. Again, you are antagonizing yourself with the finger pointing and the baby rattle. I mirror that shit to you so you can recognize this is a tech sort of question, not here is my ego, stop ragging on me.

Take a deep breath... Go to that HUB thread and rant all you want. This is topic, not I opened a case once, see me work?



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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 11:26 AM

And before I get slammed for suggesting you do this yourself...if it were MY bike...I'd be having the dealer do this...just so it was documented correctly and on them.If it was happening 'out of warranty'...then yeah..I'd probably check it/replace it myself.

Well, you do get slammed here a lot. Not only from me, fella. The thing is, it is not your bike. Couldn't you just post dis and be done with it? All of a sudden I have to read, "My sparkle boat and my 10 bikes and my only time I opened a case was when my dealer opened it and I was behind the line lifting it in my dreams.



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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 11:31 AM

its going to the dealer tomorrow, i said that previously.
did i ever say i know whats wrong with it? only how its behaving.
you are still banging on about me not accepting suggestions, most of yours were clutch related, remember?
banging on..maybe you are inside my gearbox, what do you look like?
biking prowess, this has first been mentioned now, by none other than you mr maker upper.
Tit for tat, you constantly trawl up every thing you can, smoke is right, all im doing is pulling you up on making up things like "prowess"
stick to the facts if you can.

you tried to call me out by asking me to sit on bike and try put it into second gear right??
but when that was thrown back , you deflected from saying, ok bud, i believe you have a bike, or, a manual at least,
but no, change the subject, redirect, smoke n daggers
yawn


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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 11:33 AM

Maybe you and Hub should get married....you both seem to get along just fine..BYE BYE.Remember...MY BIKE IS FINE!!!!!!Eat yer heart out,both of ya!LOLOL!!!!!

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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 11:37 AM

maybe hub and i are one in the same, hows your paranoia commin along?


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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 11:42 AM

Believe me...after catching the master tech faking his identity on another site...THIS wouldn't surprise me one bit...remember.....it came out of YOUR mouth.Mouths?...oh,whateverLOL!


Nana nana nana...my bike's doing FIIII-INE!my bike's doing FIII-INE!!! Shifts like a DREE-EEAM,shifts like a DREEE-EAM!Boo hoo hoo hoo booo hoooo


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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 11:53 AM

id prefer if you were like this all the time



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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 11:59 AM

Why yes! I would love a Boston Cream...



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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 11:59 AM

"faking his identity on another site"....know why?.....curious are ya?Maybe he can tell ya...honest guy that he is ya know...always lookin out for the other guy.

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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 12:30 PM

Believe me...after catching the master tech faking his identity on another site...THIS wouldn't surprise me one bit...remember.....it came out of YOUR mouth.Mouths?...oh,whateverLOL!


Nana nana nana...my bike's doing FIIII-INE!my bike's doing FIII-INE!!! Shifts like a DREE-EEAM,shifts like a DREEE-EAM!Boo hoo hoo hoo booo hoooo

I just wanted to make sure we are dealing with an adult here. Someone slap me I become dis obnoxious. Kind of fun to watch... Right on time!


Pee Say! It's hot!

Let me bring the box over... Stay seat'did you see that shit???



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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 12:37 PM

Look who crawled out from under the rocks...why...the 'master' himself!LOL!!!!Gotcha...lapped as they say!And falling WAY back....Me on the other hand...I see that checkered right up ahead...one last blast around this upcoming curve...yep....I'm in baby....


Maybe you should stick to something you know...like checking oil levels on the sidestand?Now...I'll have what Hagrid's having


Isn't it fun being in the crosshairs?Long as it's not YOU....buddy.


I can hardly wait to hear the '"how-to double talk my way outta this(oh,sorry),I meant say..DIS one...and sound convincing all at the same time".

Didn't someone here mention something about MY credibility?My 'integrity'?How I didn't have any?Hmmmmm....maybe that was on that 'other' forum?????IDK....so many bullshitters,so little time

If ya wanna play...junior...ya best be fully suited up and ready to rock.....that quicksand's a bitch....isn't it?


BTW...I just look like this .

"2nd for a Tech editor. Monitors are rarely objective. It's a buddy system, PM's go wannnn, he said/she said. You think it's argument, think again. That is why I want blue to make sure the tech is squared away is my opinion."

How sweet....feigning genuine concern over ole Blue....too bad ya don't mean it.....buddy.

There's only ONE reason you'd be saying something like that....we both know what that is,don't we?Still wanna tell everyone how fuckin dumb ole Grn is?Go ahead...FISH .

This one's for Motero....


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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 1:52 PM

Thanks, ive watched 6 min of that and its seriously boring, ill borro my brothers gopro and show ya type of roads we got to deal with, thats git no bends, has it.??

Ok I skipped on a bit, you got some curves


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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 2:04 PM

Thanks, ive watched 6 min of that and its seriously boring
Seriously. Mine are more boring, but I kept skipping and it all looked the same to me. So, yeah, I agree. No offense there guy, but you make me dizzy with your lines. I'm asking why are you there when you should be dare. Blow the line and shit?

What where you thinking? You were riding over your head as your shifting was all out of whack after that. And you are going to discuss lines with Dogo or ROOK? ASStraight as those lines are, I saw apex. Go speed up your vid so you see your bumblings is I can she it from here and I can't use she because TV wise, she still beat your ass IS!



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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 2:23 PM

I agree Motero...it IS boring.But fun....that's what counts...it's fun.Hard to get bored on THIS bike...you should know.Even the 55-70 mph riding is fun...on THIS bike.

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RE: Remember the guy that ais the 14R's tranny sucks?
06/08/12 2:27 PM

"You were riding over your head as your shifting was all out of whack after that"...hey 'coach'...did it EVER cross yer mind that I was riding exactly like I WANTED to?YOU don't know WHY I'm doing WHAT I'm doing.....my rides are not 'for you'....sorry....speedgene.Oh...btw...Mr Gene...did you forget?I said "I'll have what Hagrid's having"...what's taking you so long....boy...THIS is REALLY SHITTY SERVICE.Maybe I should ask Cody...geez..that won't work....he's got his head up yer azz.The service dept around here is just full o'shit.And to think...it all started with some guy askin about his tranny.Do I see a connection here?Hmmmmm.....?????????? Nah...couldn't be....just paranoid I guess...like last time


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