You know how you see the list to the right and it says 'recommended for you?'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InZOzwn71uA

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NOT RECOMMENDED

That was brutal - I may never do another track day again

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Dis calls for a pair of testicles to remount. Only those with meat puppets need apply. And obtw, I called Dovi to win. And when my buddy called I said, 'didn't I say D....' as he cut me off and started to say he called it... (you had to be there) it was too funny a conversation to remember his quote.

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Now hang on Hub, didn't everyone pick Dovi?
Commentators, Marquez, even me???

* Last updated by: yannih on 8/6/2018 @ 9:50 PM *

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yannih, I went to bed early, woke up to see the field sitting on the grid, sat in the chair, woke up when they sprayed the bubbly. Earlier this evening I watched the race again and fell asleep thru it one more time. I never heard the pre-race comments. When I watched those 3 at the press conference, I was looking at the 3 best riders out there. Dovi is a seasoned racer like Rossi. He's been sitting on the same bike for a long time and that helps in the long run. Seat jumpers more or less start all over with a new bike under them.

This was the second time I said that if Lorenzo can steer that bike, look out. It shows he can ride any bike, where Rossi struggled till the end, or gave up, who knows? Jorge is one of the top 3. MM's record speaks for himself. MM holds the highest winning stats so far. JMO, but I looked at the cream of the corp sitting there at the press confer.

When you age you lose that tiny edge on everyone else. Rossi comes to mind. He's like watching a golf ball roll up to the cup but never drops in... oh so close. He'll settle into those grandpa naps before you know it.

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Hub you misunderstood me.
I wasn't saying you heard Dovi was the guy to beat and jumped on the band wagon.
I was saying you didn't pick a dark hoarse there cause we all saw he was the guy to beat this weekend.

Ducati must be in massive damage control trying to figure out how they let Lorenzo slip through their fingers after his recent brilliant form. Their massive initial financial rider investment in him will now come to nought.
Honda have yet again pulled off a master stroke.
The only thing that will be interesting to see is how the two HRC team mates get on next season.

And they say Rossi is one of the greats.
That maybe so but one thing is for sure.
He couldn't ride a Ducati like Stoner and Lorenzo...

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No Qualifying 2 for Rossi.
#46 starts from 14th place on the grid for the Austrian GP!
Even the little fat ugly guy who's always hanging around the Yamaha pits that nobs Rossi off couldn't look at him when he returned from Qualifying 1.
Embarrassing...

* Last updated by: yannih on 8/11/2018 @ 7:27 AM *

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Oh, and Marquez on pole!
Again...

MM = Master Motorcyclist.
MM = Methodical Mind.
MM = Mad Man (in a cool way).

Hub, you forgot:-
MM = Magnificent Maestro

* Last updated by: yannih on 8/11/2018 @ 7:21 AM *

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Good one.

Tankman steers the mighty duc, takes the bull by the horn, blows into it and says, Lorenzo for the Win.

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First day with free practice, they showed Lorenzo in some sector. When I saw that guy work that bike out of that corner, that's when I made my decision. If you're a subscriber you can drag and drop on a few riders, the time sheet, the helicopter, or back to the feed they use for TV viewing. I rode with Rossi for most of the laps.

Rossi has to be one of the smoothest riders out there. Don't mind me, this is just my opinion. To watch him work his way up to 6th and how he passed the other riders. It was like watching an artist paint. Not only was he clean in the passing, the other riders more followed each other's lines and not Rossi's.

If you watch Rossi's lines, he's a late-late apex'r. That means he comes out of the corner differently. You can see that when he passed and left the other riders behind. Now the camera is facing to the rear. They are waiting for the repass. Here is where the younger set run the standard classic apex, and Rossi's setup is way late. So you see a group close together Rossi just passed, they follow each other out at the apex, and then you now see Rossi's line and it is nowhere near the same exit line of the riders behind. There is where he left a gap they couldn't reel back in. School was in session and they flunked as the midpackers.

Last few laps I switch to MM. Again, my opinion so now I'm looking out ahead with Lorenzo in front. Here I already have Rossi's throttle running in my head like an electric motor. I switch to MM and the smoothness is there, but IMO, not as smooth as Rossi. And then I'm watching the smoothest of all... Lorenzo. You look up glass in the dictionary, there's Lorenzo depicting.

I'm sitting there with MM as he blocks Lorenzo, leaning on him and pushing him almost off the track. MM is scrubbing off rpm so low, it was literally idling out of the corner. I mean, just to listen to the linear sound coming back up to speed was like you dirty boy you. And with that last blocking technique attempt one last time, Lorenzo was out on the paint and poured it on past MM. That was duc torque speaking on that exit speed and it was all over after that.

Smoothies stay upright more. Not too often smoothies like Lorenzo and Rossi crash.

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I completely agree with Hub that Rossi rode a masterful race.

But I am tired of Rossi's never ending excuses when something doesn't go his way.

Rossi qualifies 14th.
Well, it can't be Rossi. It must be the bike.
And then it starts.
"The Yamaha is not competitive".
"We need to work on bike settings harder".
"We need new parts".
"The factory needs to find the solution".

And of course all and sundry then say "Yamaha are slow and have real problems".

Even Yamaha themselves are so far up Rossi's arse they apologise to the riders.
What a joke. Even if it happened to be true.
What self respecting manufacturer does that???
Unprecedented.
And what happened to loyalty to the brand that pays your wage, working hard behind closed doors to find improvement and staying positive regardless to support Yamaha, their reputation and their sales?

Then Rossi rides a brilliant race from 14th on the grid to 6th and could possibly have competed for a podium if he qualified better and didn't have to negotiate his way through the pack.
Well, that must be Rossi's skill and the bike has nothing to do with it.

And of course all and sundry then say "What a race from Rossi", "Great comeback", "What a rider".

See the problem?
Good = must be Rossi
Bad = must be Bike

You can't have it both ways.

Either the bike was rubbish and ALL results are poor, or Rossi was slow in qualifying and fast in the race.

Why will no one consider Rossi can have poor days like any other human being?
Don't just say "Great Rossi".
Call it when he is not.

I'm not saying the Yamaha is perfect but will anyone ever dare say anything negative about Valentino Rossi???

Vinales is not a great reference as he is simply now headfucked...

P.S.
How convenient that all have forgotten that Rossi simply could not ride the Ducati and so took the easy option by giving up and walking away.
Well Stoner could.
We all know Dovi can.
And Lorenzo has now figured it out.
So are they all better riders?

* Last updated by: yannih on 8/13/2018 @ 4:44 AM *

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A very interesting take just after the race as the three riders were being congradulated by their teams ..MM went over to Lorenzo and they have a lil laffing tussel as it was easy to see that they had both been having fun..no whining or excuses or in your face stuff..they could turn out to be an exceptional team next year.. I can only imaging what the two of them pushing each other to higher performances " and having fun" will move them ahead of the rest of the pack.

Then Rossi rides a brilliant race from 14th on the grid to 6th... Well, that must be Rossi's skill and the bike has nothing to do with it.

Totally. You nailed it. Think about it. Passes the current crop of riders with more or less the same performance, if say the factory is off on its tune/telemetry. I hear Rossi wants a certain setup... It's not the chassis if he's cooking thru the field. Say Mav swaps tune/telemetry, not setup. I'd say they'd have the same results.

Mav and tuner are no longer buddies that jell. That plays into the head game and now we question performance in the cranial realm. But if both bikes are equal, didn't heart, the driven spirit, plus the will to win play the part in Rossi's makeup? Sometimes you don't need a bike to get you there. It helps, but look a the experienced young talent Rossi made fools of.

Why will no one consider Rossi can have poor days like any other human being?

Depends on how you look at it. I think this race just achieved more to an impressive list of history>>> to an already living legend past his prime.
I hear they have a telemetry problem. That means wheelie control. Leaned over, apply throttle, that means front wheel off the ground. So the trick is to be more upright before you pull the pin. There is your lost time out of corners,which now add up each lap. To hear Rossi's wristwist? That's a racer overcoming the machine's weaknesses.

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"As simple as that." You need to have a racer's mindset to understand, "not just race, try to win."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=12&v=tkHKquY8hYE

* Last updated by: Hub on 8/13/2018 @ 7:30 AM *

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But I am tired of Rossi's never ending excuses when something doesn't go his way

Uh, aren't you talking about Lorenzo?
Everyone on the Yamaha this year is saying that they just can't get the electronics to work with that
chassis. The Big Cheese even apologized for the bike being bad.
Unless you're saying that Rossi, Vinales and Zarco ( on the older bike) have all forgotten how to ride.

Mad

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Sometimes you don't need a bike to get you there. It helps, but look a the experienced young talent Rossi made fools of.

That's a racer overcoming the machine's weaknesses.

Not you as well Hub?

Then explain to me the 14th position at qualifying because I see you didn't mention anything about that?
Again, I think he rode a brilliant race, over achieved with the equipment he was on and performed better than 95% of the racers in the paddock could have done in the same situation.
Pay him his dues.
But in the same breath call him out for his poor qualifying because it directly impacted his chances of any kind of success in the race.
Vinales made Q2 on a Yamaha and his current form is like he is riding on a 150cc dirt bike.
Zarco made Q2 on a non factory Yamaha.
Rossi could not get past Q1. Definitely no "overcoming the machines weaknesses" there!

So what does this tell you if you leave reputations at the door and are 100% honest?
That is all I am saying.

Lastly Hub, if what you say is the case, if it's not the machine but the rider, if Rossi can make a mediocre race bike competitive and turn lead into gold with his talent, desire, skill and drive, please enlighten me on his 2011-12 Ducati experience?

* Last updated by: yannih on 8/13/2018 @ 3:15 PM *

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Not you as well Hub?

LOL, look yannhi, sometimes I have a gut feeling choosing riders to win, show promise, etc. That's picking racers like Kimi or Hamilton in F1. Kimi was my guy till Hamilton showed up on the scene. Same instinct saying someone in the yammie camp is going to do something. I had a good half season run at it. This year was the same. Zarco showed potential, and he too sunk like a ship in the mentality game. How could I have picked Lorenzo to win? Instinct.

Got my first taste of the internet at around 1999. Gravitated to the racing scene, and Rossi at the time was someone I knew nothing about. Somehow I gravitated to this kid as someone to watch. So Hamilton and Rossi were my long term picks, I don't see anyone running at this level. It's when I saw MM leave from last place in the 125cc class was it? When I saw him run thru the field from the back row, same way I saw Kimi start from the back and win the race, you somehow have to see it as a racer's point of view I guess? I'm speaking from a racer's perspective. I've raced since high school, retired, then am currently a nut and bolt checker; playing pit mechanic. I never left the scene you might say.

Then explain to me the 14th position at qualifying because I see you didn't mention anything about that?

I believe I mentioned a nagging ECU and the wheelie telemetry. The next part was ignition curve and wheelies go hand in hand. They didn't mention this, just the part about hooking up normally and oops, the rear end lights up at the wrong time. It's not the AFR mapping of the hp or they'd seize up, overheat, all that fuel to air problem>> it's not. True, they have enough HP, but it spins up not hooks up = Those thousands ticking off of qualifying times compounds to hundredths of seconds = compounds to tenths of seconds = compounds to seconds off the pace. That's the one part of it showing its teeth. The next part is the tire spinning shortens the tire life. That's the qualifying glitch to the factory's problem, not the tire compound necessarily.

Again, I think he rode a brilliant race, over achieved with the equipment he was on and performed better than 95% of the racers in the paddock could have done in the same situation.
Pay him his dues.

I wonder what his best lap time was against the front runner's numbers? Maybe he had the better setup to plow thru the field on race day. And maybe not. Maybe it's the same Mario Mentality. Yeah, that's it!

But in the same breath call him out for his poor qualifying because it directly impacted his chances of any kind of success in the race.

Here is where I'd have to gather the pit problems on the rewind, or wait for some rag report months from now to have it explained... Maybe. The point is, they are having an ECU issue is what one of the commentators mentioned. That's how I'm explaining the issue if that's all I can go by. The ECU only works one way, remember. I'm reversing the engineering so I can understand it.

Vinales made Q2 on a Yamaha and his current form is like he is riding on a 150cc dirt bike.

I think it's called trust. For this team has a rider/crew chief fallout. Mav may say I want it setup this way, and the crew chief says no, set it up this way. The old guy might have his set ways, I don't know? To lose confidence in the pit is, well, you might as well pack the tent and go home. Something is going on there and that is how it is in racing these days. The old days were the van/bike/toolbox/you, and went racing. Now it's a squad of delegates. Let the politics begin.

Zarco made Q2 on a non factory Yamaha.

I think the closest Crutch is going to get sitting on a works bike is his crying about having the same factory parts on his bike. He's getting some of those pieces if not last year's hand me downs. Same goes for Zarco is my understanding. Parts is parts and it's how you massage them. That still means they have to adapt to the situation or struggle at it. Put MM or Lorenzo on Zarco's bike. Are you saying the short fuse Zman is going to qualify for Q1 or will both the front runners being the usual suspects having the faster times. Back to the head game of this story.

Rossi could not get past Q1. Definitely no "overcoming the machines weaknesses" there!

That may have been a pit call and then there was noting you could do after that. I'm sure the yammie and the ECU are not on equal footing. If it's a closed system, and MM-e (for the Italian ECU maker) had to map the crank stagger on the yammie crank, I mean, back to the drawing board or something. This season is no different than last year. The bike lights up too soon and eats the tire up. It's that simple.

So what does this tell you if you leave reputations at the door and are 100% honest?

Let's put it this way, I won't mention the track, but we pulled a late nighter and the nightly track guard was walking around. He passed by a few times and began to start up a convo. I asked him who had the attitude and who was the nice guy of motogp? He gave that head shaking, jowls flapping back and forth as he blurts out, 'that spoiled little brat' for MM, and 'a really nicest guy' for Stoner. So hero's have closets, what can you do? I have no hero once I know you can't even close the door to some of those closets. I don't wanna, need-to know. I'm 100% free of any hero. Stripped of their reputation, I now see what the human spirit can accomplish: when they put their mind to it.

That is all I am saying.

You do know that the other day, yammie's project leader gave an apology to their riders for the poor performance of the bike. It's the bike, not the rider. I guarantee you that Mario and Rossi wear the same raceface when the helmet comes down. That's where the 'will to WIN' comes in. That's the racing spirit is what I'm saying.

... please enlighten me on his 2011-12 Ducati experience?

I think the story was the factory's lack of tooling up on the chassis and/or its fore and aft parts? The engine always had the fastest trap speeds. However, that was at a straight line. Once you need to turn the bike, and to turn it like Rossi suggested, I think they didn't have the budget vs. paying his salary and what little was left in the racing budget, I don't know? Parts were long in coming if I recall. So how can you progress if the factory was dropping the ball. Same scenario with the yammie last year and now this year's performance packages. Hard to say, yes?

I have no dog in this fight. I just like guessing the winner each round, and picking the up and coming talent showing potential. If yammie gets it together next year, I'm back with the same package like it's deja vu all over again.

* Last updated by: Hub on 8/13/2018 @ 11:43 PM *

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https://www.motorcyclenews.com/sport/motogp/2018/august/video-new-triumph-moto2-engine-gets-dyno-run/

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Well, the show might be canceled due to rain and Monday is out. They are playing the daylight out at the moment. The last 2 minutes of qualifying was the race. Gopro British GP 2018. Wait for the yt vids to come out for that one. Qualifying for the brit gp had to be the race of the year. Fuck the race. Qualifying is where it's at. Especially how this gem went down.

This is england so this should have Rins be named, Sir Rins. Rins gets off at 150 or so. He more jumped off the upright bike. The water was so deep, he knew he wasn't going to make it so he slid, got up, waved to every rider heading there to slow down or look out! Then a bike and rider started flying onto the TV screen. Here comes Morbidelli's bike settling in the stones, and at the same time, Rabat also flies onto the screen and begins to hold his knee when he stops sliding in the stones. Rabat's out for the season I'm sure. Broken femur.

Got a guy that stays up on racing more than I, and told me this story was a while back. I kind of see two blunders for the season. Whatever was said, I have no idea, but Redding apologizes to aprilia for some comment. Aprilia comes back with a salary penalty and no chance now to be an in house test rider. The other one was duc and Lorenzo. They showed a bunch of slow-mo shots and here is Lorenzo with his leg comfortably positioned. That rear tank bonnet was all it took and duc at the time was not interested before Lorenzo began to 'steer it.' As if I had what's his name's phone number; to tell him to wait a little more. You'd think he'd listen?

Signed,
NOLTT

Another delay just called as of this post's post time... "Till further notice."

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I bet you can relate to this... Ever feel that stumble when changing sprockets and you get this hez and the throttle is not smooth? Or say you leave from a light and it bucks but cleans up after a second or less? So I drag and drop to see who they have as riders 1 thru 4. MM is running and his bike is so smooth and linear, not a blip to be heard. Next rider is Rossi. All of a sudden I'm hearing that hez from the low end area and it cleans up afterwords. Not crisp, not what I'd call clean throughout the rev range. Then the d&d goes to Maveric. You could tell the difference between both riders. Rossi is much smoother on the throttle opening. Mav is more aggressive and when he opens it faster, the hez is more pronounced.

I can't say for sure, but ear wise, computer speak wise, that ECU is stuttering when it speaks. That's why that squad is having problems, IMO.

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For those of you who don't hate Rossi, a very good film by GoPro on Youtube.
Titled "Valentino Rossi- Passion- Moto GP"

Mad

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Handshake

And my friends, this link from the Misano press conference is why Valentino Rossi is a has been and complete fuckwit...

* Last updated by: yannih on 9/7/2018 @ 2:08 AM *

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A fuckwit he is, I thought he was just a tosser. I like the fuckwit I’m gonna use that yanni

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He's a super popular, very wealthy fuckwit....

Mad

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