I was reading another website about a Guy who races his Bike. He takes off the Fairing after every session.
One day the #3 Cylinder quit. He tore down the engine to find the Brass Nut in the Rubber Nutsert had dislodged and dropped into the motor.


Has anyone addressed this potential problem with a permanent solution?
Don't be tighten this bolt too much.

Usually, it will not break all the way off and can be extracted in one piece. If it does braek off, it would be unlikely to fall down the intake. there is a catch trough that would hold it. I could see it getting bounced up and into a bellmouth if you did a hard wheelie landing.

Don't tighten the tank fairing screws a lot. That causes the rubber well nut to expand too much and it splits against the edge of the hole in the airbox it inserts into. This goes for all well nuts. FInger tight is good. The rubber will hold tension and dampen vibes. Thats why the use them for fairings. They work very well but if you tighten them, they will need to be replaced. Oh, in case your thinking to use locktite on wellnuts, DON"T. The whole thing will spin when you try to remove the screw.

It was a dumb idea to have a fairing well nut inserted in a hole in the airbox. Right up there with the fairing grommet (for positioning only) in the ram air tubes on my busa. They should have made that a solid mount screw like the screws on the lowers.

It's been a long time since my nutsert. I don't miss it.

I mowed the lawn today, and after doing so
I sat down and had a cold beer.
The day was really quite beautiful, and the drink facilitated some deep thinking.
My wife walked by and asked me what I was doing,
and I said, "Nothing."
The reason I said "nothing" instead of saying "just thinking" is because she then would have asked, "About what?"
At that point I would have had to explain that men are deep thinkers about various topics, which would lead to other questions.
Finally I pondered an age old question: Is giving birth more painful than getting kicked in the nuts?
Women always maintain that giving birth is way more painful than a guy getting kicked in the nuts, but how could they know?
Well, after another beer, and some more heavy deductive thinking, I have come up with an answer to that question.
Getting kicked in the nuts is more painful than having a baby, and even though I obviously couldn't really know, here is the reason for my conclusion:
A year or so after giving birth, a woman will often say, "It might be nice to have another child."
But you never hear a guy say, "You know, I think I would like another kick in the nuts."
I rest my case.
Time for another beer. Then maybe a nap.

This is an interesting post. To the old part, I guess I can see having the engine apart and maybe that nutsert has been damaged and maybe it go knocked loose and fell into the eigine. That's about the only way I see this happening.

Good point about over tightening. Yes, certainly those fairing bolts don't need torqued to 100 ft lbs.

And joke with really a good point. I can say if mine never get racked again (and it's been a while) I certainly won't miss it.

WOW!!! I always click SHOW NEW MESSAGES as soon as I get here. When I saw this yesterday, I thought the whole thread was posted by a spammer! Thus my response. Looks like BG deleted the spam response. Even more amusing, I made a serious reply to this thread 10 years ago! I didn't see that either. I knew I heard someone refer to them as "nutserts" before. It's a wellnut....and Oh WELL, I'm leaving my cheeky response up there. That's a good story I happened across on FB yesterday so I copied it and posted it here.

Moral of the story(s): Don't tighten it until your nutsert. Tighten all well nuts until you feel the rubber compress and maybe a turn or two more. The well nut will never need to be replaced and the bolt won't come out. I think that one at the corner of the tank fairing should have an extra turn or two but don't tighten them until they get anywhere near wrench tight. If that well nut ever tears in half and falls in, I'd remove the fuel tank and open up the air box doors to remove it before riding the bike again.

With all of the things they improved on the Gen2, I'm surprised they didn't address this. I haven't removed fairings yet but there's a well nut in the same place on my Gen2. The Gen2's 17 lbs heavier and then somehow, they added another 9 pounds for more recent models. They could've cast a bung for a threaded hole here and put a rubber washer under the head of the bolt. My Hayabusa has that on the lower fairings and it works just fine. It's sloppy design to have a hole in the air box post filter and it's plain dumb that the well nut can fall in if it breaks.

Rook, thanks for putting that little article in about getting kicked in the nuts. I never thought about it that way. I laughed quite a while at that. My wife even laughed.
Thanks for making our day!

When I finally took a look inside my airbox, this is what I found. Yes, I sdmit, I should have checked years ago. These are from the previous owner. I got lucky they weren't sucked into the engine.

Mad

This thread was not SPAM. Rook, I did not know you were married? Who in the "right mind" open a 10-yr old thread?
My nutsert in the frame is still there.

This thread was not SPAM. Rook, I did not know you were married? Who in the "right mind" open a 10-yr old thread?
My nutsert in the frame is still there.

I haven't been married for 15 years. That story was just something I grabbed off of FB.

As for spam, the threads not spam but a spammer posted here and BG must have deleted that reply. That answers the question of "who would open a 10 year old thread. ...but I usually do too if I'm searching a topic and have additional questions. No need to have multiple threads on the same topic as long as the old thread isn't too terribly long. ...that's how I see it. I'm glad your nutserts are holding up so well! They'll last a lifetime if you're gentle on them.

* Last updated by: Rook on 9/4/2024 @ 6:23 AM *