Yannih, in general I agree with what you said. But one major problem is this...
Yes, most cops do a good job. It is a very hard job I think we can all agree. But when there
are clear problems with a particular cop, maybe excessive violence, etc, too many of the "good
cops" look the other way. It's like the military. Your brother soldier is more important than the "Enemy"
even when the enemy is the same people you are sworn to serve. The "Blue Line" is a real thing. And by
protecting the bad cops, it stains the entire force. The cop in Minnesota had 16 complaints against him
including 2 other shootings, one fatal. Another had 12.... Where do you draw the line?

Mad

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If ya want anarchy and a civil war...just dismantle the police depts around the country.That's where this leads to.No thanks.People get worried about a 'military presence' or military action like the other counties?Just keep pushing for police disbanding.Believe me,the regimes around the world are watching all this unfold and hoping we're next.Not to mention terrorist organizations.

This looks(to me)eerily similar to the beginnings of Nazi germany.We may have a strong economy and such,but the actions by the leftist factions right now are alarming.This is no time to be talking 'ditch the popo'.

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This too shall pass.

Why is not the UN coming down on 'Crimes Against Humanity' in Chicago? You wanna know how many died since 20 buck bob or whatever his name is? A lot. So the blm is protesting on the wrong streets. Where is the gov/mayors in all dis human carnage?

If you want to stop the bleeding, chad what Thomas, Candace, and Walter are pointing out. If not...

Signed,
NOLTT

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I'm done catering to soft cocks so fuck you...

Oh no! Cody wants an apology in a rainbow prophylactic. You just stereotyped his wimpy, and now it just became personal. Now, you two apologize. Cody likes to french kiss so open up.

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BLM isn't about 'dealing with black crime' or black lives.BLM's about introducing sharia law and having open beheadings without the fear of police intervention.That's my take away.Somalia 2.0.There's a seriously dangerous element hiding in plain sight in this country.Yeah,disbanding the police is a GREAT idea...ya think?Let's just call in the military and have a 'protest' a la Iran.

WTF???

Mad

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It is a very hard job I think we can all agree. But when there
are clear problems with a particular cop, maybe excessive violence, etc, too many of the "good
cops" look the other way. It's like the military. Your brother soldier is more important than the "Enemy"
even when the enemy is the same people you are sworn to serve.

I'm sure that's true. As for complaints against cops and use of force, that seems like that's likely to happen a lot more in urban environments that suburbs. I'd be curious to see what the average urban cops record looks like. If use of force is as common as I suspect it might be, that could be another reason colleagues and supervisors have not reacted to it. As a teacher, I'm not supposed to touch anybody but when I worked in an urban setting, there were so many fights I just ended up getting involved. How do you stop that sort of thing without getting physical? If you actually need to subdue and apprehend like a cop does, it gets dangerous for the cop.

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'WTF?'...it's a mockery of all who wish law enforcement be ended.NOT a condonement of no police.But that's what it'll end up being without LEO's.Think the crime rate's high now?Ya aint seen nuthin yet.And terrorists around the world and here at home are watching this with great interest.

GRN, the police being removed might look like an opportunity for Sharia law to move in but I have yet to hear BLM is a Muslim fundamentalist group. What if it is? I'm not going to go paranoid about life just yet. Yeah, I guess BLM or any other SI group might be seeking to unravel the fabric of US culture and replace it with its own.

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But when there are clear problems with a particular cop, maybe excessive violence, etc, too many of the "good
cops" look the other way. It's like the military. Your brother soldier is more important than the "Enemy"
even when the enemy is the same people you are sworn to serve. The "Blue Line" is a real thing. And by
protecting the bad cops, it stains the entire force. The cop in Minnesota had 16 complaints against him
including 2 other shootings, one fatal. Another had 12.... Where do you draw the line?

Completely agree Mad.
You added detail to my over simplification when I said

Deal with the problems which is a challenge in itself

Strong leadership, reform and change is required.
The public need to see this to regain full confidence in their law enforcement agencies.

But defunding and dismantling a system that has stood fast throughout time without a viable option of replacement is insane.
Just because something is hard, doesn't mean you automatically turn to the easiest option.

And where does this all end because if you happen to subscribe to the police being defunded and or dismantled, by the same rational you must also do the same for any domestic intelligence agencies such as the FBI and CIA, all levels of national government, and all global organisations like the United Nations because all have inept and corrupt people within them who have been directly responsible for innocent lives lost due to their inappropriate actions.

Plus how many good cops are killed in the line of duty every year since the police force's inception?
Who stands for them and their rights?
Where are the ongoing protests for these hero's?

Why do the rights of criminals who put themselves in harms way trump the brave that are sworn to protect us?

Sometimes I truly believe this world is heading in exactly the wrong direction...

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I'll say this, I'm glad it's happening there and not here.

Why would police not just go to work as community police? I think that's what they will do and somebody is going to be eliminating those from employment probably mostly based on how many complaints they have recorded.

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"BLM is a Muslim fundamentalist group".

It is Daron.The 'leader' named Newsome already stated their beliefs."based on Nation of Islam laws".'Teaching citizens(Islamists)how to use weapons and such to police the communities'.They aint gonna be policing drug dealer infested neighborhoods tell ya that.It won't happen of course,but the mindset is very much behind the scenes.Waiting.
This is the head guy of the BLM movement.Too late...it's already out there.This 'recruitment' won't be 'adults only' either.There are black families already teaching their kids how to kill others and use terrorist tactics.It's no fairy tale.American nazis are doing it.White power groups are doing it.Gangs have been doing it for years.If we ever dismantle the police,it's gonna be a civil war.Mark my words.
I'm not afraid of it,but it is a wake up call.The end goal is anarchy.Regardless of what color ya are.They'd love to see an 'arab spring' uprising here in this country.Won't see it in my lifetime...but it's out there.

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"Where are the ongoing protests for these hero's?"...just look back at Iraq.People scared to death their 'neighbors' will rat em out if they stand for what's right.If this aint stopped with some serious reality actions by the good in this country,there's gonna be a LOT of people killed.Not just 'john Q citizen' either.Those sitting in their high places thinking they're gonna be above the chaos are dreaming.The left and such really need to pull their heads out and start facing what's developing.Instead of trying to hinder the leadership and all.Better start working with what we have NOW.Dem leadership around this country are paving the way for a dangerous breakdown in what we know as 'the American dream'.No other way to put it.I include radical right wingers as well.Hate is hate.Many people truly hate this country we have.They're not leaving.They want to see it fail.Big time.

Soros radical overthrow movement. Dude, you one of those spin monkeys? Kofla rub off on you?

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European Movement UK[5]
Scientists for EU[5][6]
Media Matters for America[7]
Center for Public Integrity[8]
Human Rights Watch[9]
Priorities USA Action[10]
American Bridge 21st Century[10]
America Votes[10][11]
Millennium Promise[12]
Tides Center and Foundation[13]
Wikimedia Endowment[14]
Black Lives Matter[15]

Did you catch anything about Sowell, pre-meddling dummycraprograms? Yeah, it's soros' fault.

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Police Union Chief Fires Back

Exactly!

Watch the first guy.
He sums it up perfectly...

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I went out for the pd. Passed the oral, flunked the physical. Too beat up and would be a liability to the city if my arm would give out pulling someone out of a burning car, etc. I took that kind of commitment to infiltrate the dept and clean it up. We're going way-way back. Was it a problem then? Could I have changed anything?

When I see those videos, and see one fucking wrinkle someone cuffs someone without following law? I'd cut his pay/cut his pension. One more time you're off the force. Constitution is #1. A guy with a camera is no threat when all s/he is there for is to see how well trained they are doing their sworn duty. Until that is cleaned up, I wanted to made a difference if not tried and lost. Nothing is going to change unless I rule the world. I haven't heard/seen anyone do the right thing yet. I don't see common [kofla] sense in all this.

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Candace Owens is right on the money.Speaks the truth.

There's protests in a lot of countries. It's saying the cops are out of line, out of hand, now out of knee; so says the people. That's a systemic problem, yes? Everybody has their 20bucker on a poster.

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Sheriff 6 Point.
Candace.
Thomas.
Walter.

What is so ironic with this picture? They have the simple answers. Why are their voices silent?

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How about the black dealers working with Cartels and such and hooking their black neighbors on drugs.How about that?They don't care about what's right and wrong...only money.It's an easy paycheck.Why would they give that up over 'black lives matter'?Black lives to them are dollar signs.That's it.
Police injustices must stop of course.Dealers need to step up and start caring about their neighbors.It's so damned intertwined I don't think it will ever change.Not in my lifetime.It's not just a police problem.Trump has tried to lower unemployment(and has)in minority communities.More needs to be done.But these hardcore criminals plan on making big bucks till they die.THEY have to change that.And it's not just blacks either.Every race in America has it's hardened criminals doing the same thing.Until that stops,the reality of needing police will be here.It's got to be.Somebody has to hold the line.Neighborhood 'peace police' aint gonna cut it.Nice concept.But totally unrealistic.IMO.
It would be portrayed that ALL blacks are against the police.That's simply not true.Truth is,most would want police handling the gun violence and such in these cities.But they're targets if they actually take a serious stand.This is the prison mentality.On the streets.No different.I don't know how this can be changed.That's the big question really.Gangs running neighborhoods.Terrorizing people.Doing what they want.Only thing stopping em at any given time is police presence.It's an age old problem.From Tribal dominance and wars to the streets of cities.No one person can stop this.But those Dem liberal leaders aren't making decisions that will actually help the situation.A bunch of (dangerous)smoke and mirrors actions that do ZERO to help.There needs to be an overhaul in Washington,and all around the country.We need strong leadership.Not condonement and appeasements by the leaders.It's just crazy.I can't believe these leaders actually think their solutions are gonna fix any of what's going on and has been going on through the years.It's terrible.

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This thing with the Drug Dealers and all is NO different than the slavers way back when,selling their own people.And the Democrats have long enabled em to keep doing it.It's criminal.They know what's going on...and they mouth nice sounding solutions.Black slavers selling out their black communities.Sickening.I hope these communities will finally realize that Dem policies are helping those slavers to continue the destruction of people's lives.

I'm not aware of any statistics but I've considered the possibility that a lot of urban cops get a lot of complaints. It's a rough setting. These guys are there making a living and hoping to go home at the ned of the day. They're not as committed to hauling in anyone who resists arrest as much as that person is to escaping. It's gotta be danferous and they probably resort to what is safest for them and gets the job done at the same time. We haven'theard all the facts in the Floyd case. It may be that Floyd was a lot more dangerous than he looks. I only say this because I can't believe cops would do what they did in front of people videoing them if they knew they were doing something wrong. If they knew it was wrong and thought nobody was going to care, obviously they were very wrong. Could they have been that stupid? It seems unlikely they could be that stupid but I'm waiting for all the facts to come out.

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Just as easily as the answer is "the cops were evil people" it could be "if you get arrested and you resist, you might end up dead so don't be a dumass." This isn't playground cops and robbers.

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Which is all the more to the point, what the hell is the neighborhood watch going to do when they try to apprehend a drug dealer? Are these people going to hunt down a rapist? This is serious shit.

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