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Thread: Lightweight brakes

Created on: 01/04/17 11:21 AM

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RE: Lightweight brakes
02/14/17 2:33 PM

Might ask Lemich to price match.
Got my new rear caliper and it sure looks nice. Little heavier with pads and fittings than I was hoping for.
444 grams with steel bolts/fittings and pads.



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RE: Lightweight brakes
02/14/17 4:23 PM

lol Neither Lemick nor SBU has answered my last email and I asked SBU how to order since there is no part# or bike specific fitment selections on their site. ...I mean this is $1600 I'm planning to drop. I want to know what I'm ordering! ..and also, I want to make sure i get that logo inverted for a lower mounted rear caliper. I guess I have to call.

444g is a good reduction, I'm sure. If your ZX-10 rear caliper is 930g, I'm sure the ZX-10 rear caliper is at least that much. DAMN!!! you saved over a lb on your rear brake caliper and probably another lb on the bracket! $200/lb is pretty normal for weight loss by aftermarket parts so you're in the ballpark.

The weights posted on the previous page for the front calipers are WITH pads. He did not say with ALL hardware so I expect another 200g on top of the caliper/pad weight......LOL which would put each front about .5 oz lighter than stock.



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RE: Lightweight brakes
02/14/17 5:01 PM

For front calipers, it's either used (I think you'll be waiting a long time) or order from Sweden. Hope they fit ok--I did see a post on a Ducati forum where some 4 pistons were bumping his CF bodywork (fender, maybe?).

I'm happy for you on your rear caliper weight loss but I'm a little dejected about the fronts. Stiil nice looking but sHeeZE! No weight loss?


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'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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RE: Lightweight brakes
02/17/17 3:47 AM

I think the front calipers are pretty universal. I don't think there are any differences other than the bolt spacing. Don't think I could do the Beringer cost with no weight loss though, as the regular stock calipers are a really nice setup.
Still debating on what to modify on the rear caliper bracket as it definitely seems thicker in some areas than the stock cast bracket.


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RE: Lightweight brakes
02/17/17 11:41 AM

I smell some Swiss CHESE!

Speaking of Swiss, I'm looking into a full setup with ISR. Not crazy about the fact i can't get them in gold but those brakes do look the coolest by far and they are lightest for front. I see that open piston design is how they are keeping the weight down. The stock ZX-10 brakes have that. The rear is going to be more than the Beringer but if it's close, I might take it just to have a matching set.



'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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RE: Lightweight brakes
02/17/17 12:34 PM

Thats awesome. I like how unusual the ISR calipers are. You could always get them anodized in the states.



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RE: Lightweight brakes
02/17/17 2:52 PM

WELL, let's just see if I can get them for a couple grand or less. The shipping is probably going to kill me if I can even get them to ship here from Sweden. I don't see any ISR radial mount front caliper suppliers in the US.

ISR calipers are anodized with a clear pigment. I couldn't see having a brand new finish redone since i believe that entails sanding away the first one. I'd probably just paint them and clear coat. VHT gold engine paint looks pretty good. Not as good as anodizing but at least it is a rich gold color. I'd do the exposed pistons in black.


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'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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RE: Lightweight brakes
02/23/17 4:27 PM

Sounds like a kickass plan.



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RE: Lightweight brakes
02/23/17 5:29 PM

They ask you to call, not email. I will have to Google "Hello" in Swedish and then face the awkwardness of asking then to speak to me in English.

From what i can tell, most Swedish people speak English very well. I think i now know everything i need to order these quick.



'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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RE: Lightweight brakes
07/17/17 5:12 PM

So far 550g difference between stock caliper/ mount with Ti caliper and mount bolts and the Beringer caliper and modified active mount. The difference would be a bit more to compare the stock rear with steel bolts to the aftermarket parts with all lightweight bolts.
The difference is more than 600 grams once the new bracket was finished and all the bolts on the caliper were converted to Ti.


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RE: Lightweight brakes
07/17/17 8:34 PM

That's a good weight loss. $200/lb is what to expect. Sometimes you get a greater reduction but not often. I'm still thinking about trying to track down those ISRs but I have to finish off my NOS mods first.



'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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RE: Lightweight brakes
10/14/18 12:47 AM

Updated. Beringer looks like the winner now..
New Beringer calipers..


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RE: Lightweight brakes
07/11/19 1:03 PM

Still waiting for Beringer's new front calipers...
Half weight Beringer



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RE: Lightweight brakes
07/15/19 9:25 AM

Glad I waited. Sounds like Berringer rear and the new fronts will be the way to go.



'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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