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Thread: Weight reduction ideas?

Created on: 01/16/19 04:25 PM

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JimGnitecki



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RE: Weight reduction ideas?
03/25/19 6:22 PM

Rook, I suspect that those bolts, like my clip-on bolts, came from the factory with Red Loctite, and might need heat to get them out without damaging them.

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RE: Weight reduction ideas?
03/26/19 4:17 PM

That may be the case. IDK how you could heat them without damaging the paint though. The factory locktite seems to stay soft like a stiff putty but those tail frame bolts have a high torque spec as you mentioned before. I have removed the clip bolts without problems. Rotor bolts, same thing. Both had the soft red locktite on them.



'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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JimGnitecki



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RE: Weight reduction ideas?
03/26/19 4:35 PM

You are probably right about the paint damage. You might need to check with a Kawasaki dealer technician, or a salvage yard technician, who has had reason to pull the subframe off a ZX-14 (e.g. accident damage).

You see so many ZX-14 frames advertised on eBay, so obviously salvage yards are pulling the subframes off successfully somehow.

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RE: Weight reduction ideas?
03/26/19 5:33 PM

Yes. Hub also suggested heat. That might be the only way and then you repaint after. Another Hub trick -- if the hex was stretched a bit, put the correct bit in and hit it with a hammer to set it deeper in the hex. The hex has a concave bottom that will flatten down a tiny bit and give you a better bight. Haven't tried it yet. Maybe heat the bolt from the tip of the threads? That would burn the paint on the inside of the frame where it was out of sight. I guess I will cross that bridge when I come to it.



'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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RE: Weight reduction ideas?
06/24/19 2:36 PM

Not sure if anyone else has tried this, but I'm also planning on running cf fan brackets, and an aluminum clutch pushrod (7.91mm diameter) the ends of the pushrod need to dimpled to match the stock piece. The stock steel clutch pushrod is quite heavy.


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RE: Weight reduction ideas?
06/24/19 5:10 PM

Great ideas. the Aluminum pushrod could be done by anyone as long as they can find the right diameter aluminum rod.



'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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RE: Weight reduction ideas?
12/19/19 9:36 PM

ZX14r that weighs 500 lbs with one gallon of fuel.



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1978 XS750 Special, 1981 750E Kawa, 1982 650Turbo Seca Yamaha, 1984 700 Nighthawk,
1986 Concours Kawa, 1989 ZX10 Ninja, 2003 FZ1 Yamaha, 2012 ZX14r, 2007 1250s Bandit.the ZX14r still survives.

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RE: Weight reduction ideas?
12/20/19 6:54 AM

ZX14r that weighs 500 lbs with one gallon of fuel.

That's my bike up there^^^without fairings.

According to what I have found online, the Gen1 was 485 dry. Grn's was 520 wet, with full tank of gas.

I've removed a/o replaced enough junk to subtract a 75 pounds for my 08 and that does not include fairings (although there are a number of fairing brackets and attached equipment that have been removed or modified). So fairings and all, my 14 is a lot lighter than 500 lbs. Only thing, I have not figured the amount of weight I have added yet. Maybe this summer I will catalogue that. My guess is less than 30 lbs of doodads, nitrous and electronics added so I'm still under 500 lbs. ....and getting lighter all the time!!


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'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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RE: Weight reduction ideas?
12/20/19 11:06 AM

Nice looking Bike. I wonder if the Eye brow fairing would stay in place at 186mph?



1969 350 Suz,1972 500 Kawa,1974 900 Kawa,1977 XS750 Yamaha,
1978 XS750 Special, 1981 750E Kawa, 1982 650Turbo Seca Yamaha, 1984 700 Nighthawk,
1986 Concours Kawa, 1989 ZX10 Ninja, 2003 FZ1 Yamaha, 2012 ZX14r, 2007 1250s Bandit.the ZX14r still survives.

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RE: Weight reduction ideas?
12/20/19 1:24 PM

I wonder if the Eye brow fairing would stay in place at 186mph?

Good question. It's just two bolts but that upper cowl holds the sides and lowers up for the most part. I think it would stay on by itself but I probably wouldn't try it. I can tell ya, I have problems if I do 90 without lowers. I took that LH side frame rail out so it blows around unless the lowers are there to help hold it steady. The ram covers can be problem too if the sides have been removed and that one main bolt is out.



'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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